Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

No you didn't....and no I didn't

G'day Ron B

Oh okay, forgive me as I did see the smiley when you posted with a suggestion I leave!

[deltaguitar]

I am pretty sure that the UPC doesn't allow debate about their core doctrines. These are doctrines that identify the UPC and are untouchable. Now maybe holiness standards aren't a part of that core doctrine but I think that if someone came out against the hair doctrine all heck would break loose.

[deltaguitar]

How can their be change if their can be no discussion?

[moniker]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

How can their be change if their can be no discussion?

Now you're getting the picture.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

How can their be change if their can be no discussion?

Some feel we are changing---and not for the better!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

How can their be change if their can be no discussion?

I guess it's just another brick in the wall.....

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Papabear

Just because you call it rhetoric, don't make it false.

One Name... Coward... I don't view it as a name perse, but the definition of the word.

"a person who shows fear or timidity"

I think the "name" or word is fitting in this setting...

I understand on some level for certain things the anonymous aspect, but more harm than good has flowed from the free wheel nature and destructive bent to tear down some have excercised

words should have consequences.

if you are bold enough to say it, you should be bold enough to take the consequences of the same

I believe in bold communication... however I think it is less than bold if you don't feel strong enough to stand behind it.

but that is just me

My name is scott phillips and I approve this message

It's your attitude. Combative and proud. What makes you think with your type of attitude that those "likeminded" men would even consider broaching their brethren who take the same approach you do with their concerns? It appears to me that you're ready to fight before you even listen to their POV! And I could care less what your name is.

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

It's your attitude. Combative and proud. What makes you think with your type of attitude that those "likeminded" men would even consider broaching their brethren who take the same approach you do with their concerns? It appears to me that you're ready to fight before you even listen to their POV! And I could care less what your name is.

You go girl!!! LOL.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Ron

Some feel we are changing---and not for the better!

No one is forcing anyone else to change. If you are a pastor who believes one-step or three-step or clothes-line standards or not you should be able to make the changes necessary.

There is so much propaganda out there about those who leave the Apostolic way. It is real simple. Just submit your life to Christ, get into the word, and live in the freedom of Christ.

If the gospel message was preached instead of trying to force a doctrine that is way to controversial and takes a lot of jumping through hoops to explain the UPC would grow like never before. The UPC has some of the most talented people yet has a message that leads to nothing more than a checklist.

Sorry for being so straightforward but that is how I feel.

Lets just get back to the Bible as our source for answers.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

It's your attitude. Combative and proud. What makes you think with your type of attitude that those "likeminded" men would even consider broaching their brethren who take the same approach you do with their concerns? It appears to me that you're ready to fight before you even listen to their POV! And I could care less what your name is.

Well, well, well, it sounds like the pot calling the kettle black!
That is okay though cuz you just hide in the shadows!