Prophetic Word about the Election - Page 21

Pastor Keith · #**201** 11-04-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antipas

Are you serious???

Wow. The Bush Presidency has done more to undermine personal liberties than any administration we've ever had since the day's of McCarthyism.

Yeah those long distance calls to relatives in Pakistan regarding bomb making/money transfers has been hard to give up.

There has been no Legit documented case where the patriot act has been used to wrongly prosecute or persecute someone.

Pressing-On · #**202** 11-04-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

Yeah those long distance calls to relatives in Pakistan regarding bomb making/money transfers has been hard to give up.

There has been no Legit documented case where the patriot act has been used to wrongly prosecute or persecute someone.

Thank you and I understand the Patriot Act is used for "non-citizens" only. Would that be correct?

Pastor Keith · #**203** 11-04-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Antipas

I'd have to know more specifics about what you're talking about. I'd want to know their overall mission and level of training. We do need more citizen involvement.

Lets see

We have local police, county sheriff, State National Guard and National Military Force, what kind of other civilian defense force do we need. Oh I know the tolerance police, anyone doing or saying anything the liberal establishment doesn't like will be hounded by this force.

Say it slowly, GESTAPO.

It would do us good to read Orwell's Animal Farm.

Sweet Pea · #**204** 11-04-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

Did Pastor N. give his if you vote Dem then your not right with God and Hell is reserved for you.

No, can't say that I heard him say that -- but he did say that we must look at each candidate and what they stand for. He did say that both parties were on a slippery slope (my words) leading our country straight to a path of destruction. He said the difference was that one party was out pushing the wagon and "a part" of the other party was trying to hold it back somewhat. He did tell us to read the party platform..... but can't say I personally heard him say what you said.... ????

I do know that he is not happy with either candidate - but feels that we must vote for the one who more closely aligns themselves to what we believe. (He believes this on every level - White House down to city government). He is very adamant about supporting candidates that will be a friend to Israel... and Obama has made it plain he will NOT be a friend to Israel.

He also indicated that the Times of the Gentiles is almost over - too much to go into right now - but no matter what happens - God is in control.

He has been VERY adamant about supporting Prop 8 - and yes, he would probably tell you that if you vote no on 8, you are not right with God and there is a place reserved for you downstairs....

TRFrance · #**205** 11-04-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron

Have you read the Patriot Act lately?

http://epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.html

We know what the Patriot Act is about.

But the question remains: what personal freedoms have we given up ?
Please tell us. (...since you made the statement that we've been "giving up personal freedoms left and right")

Pressing-On · #**206** 11-04-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by keith4him

Lets see

We have local police, county sheriff, State National Guard and National Military Force, what kind of other civilian defense force do we need. Oh I know the tolerance police, anyone doing or saying anything the liberal establishment doesn't like will be hounded by this force.

Say it slowly, GESTAPO.

It would do us good to read Orwell's Animal Farm.

Keith,
You are hitting the main point here!!! Thank you!!!

RandyWayne · #**207** 11-04-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Unfortunately, he's not joking. Many many liberals really think this.

Interestingly, even if Obama's administration stinks, if they can actually bring themselves to admit that Obama was a disappointment, they'll find way to blame the Bush administration anyway. You can take that to the bank.

Obama will be Donovan McNab times 10 when it comes to being insulated from criticism. Criticism of Obama will be deemed "hate speech" which of course is not protected according to the Left.

Sweet Pea · #**208** 11-04-2008, 01:15 PM

And Keith - just FYI and to keep the record straight - I have NOT be repeating him in my posts.... I sincerely believe in my own heart what I have said.... I am not drinking political kool-aid.

Pastor Keith · #**209** 11-04-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

And Keith - just FYI and to keep the record straight - I have NOT be repeating him in my posts.... I sincerely believe in my own heart what I have said.... I am not drinking political kool-aid.

Thanks, Didn't think you were.

Pastor Keith · #**210** 11-04-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

No, can't say that I heard him say that -- but he did say that we must look at each candidate and what they stand for. He did say that both parties were on a slippery slope (my words) leading our country straight to a path of destruction. He said the difference was that one party was out pushing the wagon and "a part" of the other party was trying to hold it back somewhat. He did tell us to read the party platform..... but can't say I personally heard him say what you said.... ????

I do know that he is not happy with either candidate - but feels that we must vote for the one who more closely aligns themselves to what we believe. (He believes this on every level - White House down to city government). He is very adamant about supporting candidates that will be a friend to Israel... and Obama has made it plain he will NOT be a friend to Israel.

He also indicated that the Times of the Gentiles is almost over - too much to go into right now - but no matter what happens - God is in control.

He has been VERY adamant about supporting Prop 8 - and yes, he would probably tell you that if you vote no on 8, you are not right with God and there is a place reserved for you downstairs....

Good point, I am not a pessimist, but this must happen at some time, why not us. Why must it be relegated to some distant future generation. We preach about the end times, and when seems like it is coming to pass then no one whats to be uncomfortable or face the reality that this is not heaven here.

Everyone wants heaven, nobody wants to die!