Last night's debate was more interesting than the first two. I was glad Obama admitted that he wants to make it mandatory for parents to have health insurance for their children--and it would have been nice if he had been man enough to state the amount of the fine.
McCain is not dazzling me--but then, he didn't before the election began. *sigh* The problem is, I doubt he's dazzling anyone else either, including the "undecided" voters. I think he's a "good guy", and I agree with most of his platform, but I wish he was more impressive in the debates. He seems to shy away from a fight. I want him to get the zingers in, and he seems to back off just before they start to really sting.
But how anyone could be even slightly impressed with Obama, I will never know.
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Last night's debate was more interesting than the first two. I was glad Obama admitted that he wants to make it mandatory for parents to have health insurance for their children--and it would have been nice if he had been man enough to state the amount of the fine.
McCain is not dazzling me--but then, he didn't before the election began. *sigh* The problem is, I doubt he's dazzling anyone else either, including the "undecided" voters. I think he's a "good guy", and I agree with most of his platform, but I wish he was more impressive in the debates. He seems to shy away from a fight. I want him to get the zingers in, and he seems to back off just before they start to really sting.
But how anyone could be even slightly impressed with Obama, I will never know.
I agree with your post.
But, do we need someone that can get zingers in or someone that has experience?
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Well, we have never called another country a stinking corpse, but we have pointed out the things not working. I don't know how else to reword a "lousy" government. If it's "lousy", it just is.
I think more to the point...how would you receive it if the leader of a foreign country referred to us as lousy. What would be the chance that in a few years you would be willing to embrace that country as a moral leader and a friend. I won't even get into the "Bomb Bomb Iran" joke. I think that we have to understand how what we say is received by those who we will need to be able to take the high moral ground towards.
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I think more to the point...how would you receive it if the leader of a foreign country referred to us as lousy. What would be the chance that in a few years you would be willing to embrace that country as a moral leader and a friend. I won't even get into the "Bomb Bomb Iran" joke. I think that we have to understand how what we say is received by those who we will need to be able to take the high moral ground towards.
Well, I have heard the "We HATE America" mantra.
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PO, we have a record of tough diplomacy in our past for sure. I don't want to rehash this whole debate, but suffice it to say that while we have been shunning talks, the threats have been increasing.
Stew,
There are many people that attribute the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile Crisis judging President JFK's weak performance at the summit meeting in Vienna on June 4, 1961. At that time he had just come off the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion. Many felt that Khrushchev held the edge on the one-on-one talks.
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright pursued a policy meeting and worked with our enemies many times at the nation's detriment. In 2000, she addressed the Iranian Government on St. Patrick's Day at the American Iranian Concil apologizing for the US involvement in the 1953 overthrow of the Iranian prime minister Mohammed Mossadeg.
She argued that the Iranians had a right to resent the US because our intervention included sustaining the Shah's regime. She even took further steps toward normalizing relations with Iran by allowing the import of carpets, food products, which included dried fruits, nuts, and caviar.
The response from Iran was less than what she had hoped for. That following month, Ayatollah Khamenei launched an even more repressive crackdown on dissidents within Iran.
So, I think that McCain has been around long enough, seen enough and has the experience to make calculated and tough decisions.
Last night's debate was more interesting than the first two. I was glad Obama admitted that he wants to make it mandatory for parents to have health insurance for their children--and it would have been nice if he had been man enough to state the amount of the fine.
McCain is not dazzling me--but then, he didn't before the election began. *sigh* The problem is, I doubt he's dazzling anyone else either, including the "undecided" voters. I think he's a "good guy", and I agree with most of his platform, but I wish he was more impressive in the debates. He seems to shy away from a fight. I want him to get the zingers in, and he seems to back off just before they start to really sting.
But how anyone could be even slightly impressed with Obama, I will never know.
I think McCain was the one with the zingers. The nailing jello to the wall and things like that.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
I think more to the point...how would you receive it if the leader of a foreign country referred to us as lousy. What would be the chance that in a few years you would be willing to embrace that country as a moral leader and a friend. I won't even get into the "Bomb Bomb Iran" joke. I think that we have to understand how what we say is received by those who we will need to be able to take the high moral ground towards.
They all know they talk about, openly, what they don't like about each other. I don't think that has ever keep "lower level" officials from engaging.
Stew,
There are many people that attribute the Berlin Wall and the Cuban Missile Crisis judging President JFK's weak performance at the summit meeting in Vienna on June 4, 1961. At that time he had just come off the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion. Many felt that Khrushchev held the edge on the one-on-one talks.
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright pursued a policy meeting and worked with our enemies many times as the nation's detriment. In 2000, she addrssed the Iranian Government on St. Patrick's Day at the American Iranian Concil apologizing for the US involvement in the 1953 overthrow of the Iranian prime minister Mohammed Mossadeg.
She argued that the Iranians had a right to resent the US because our intervention included sustaining the Shah's regime. She even took further steps toward normalizing relations with Iran by allowing the import of carpets, food products, which included dried fruits, nuts, and caviar.
The response from Iran was less than what she had hoped for. That following month, Ayatollah Khamenei launched an even more repressive crackdown on dissidents within Iran.
So, I think that McCain has been around long enough, seen enough and has the experience to make calculated and tough decisions.
So what is going to be the end result of ignoring them. Are they going to on their own quit seeking nuclear weapons along with other problem nations. I am not opposed to war, but I do see war as the absolutely last resort after every other conceivable option has been exhausted. I do think that the spectre of war should clearly be on the table and that problem nations should know that...but I also think that we should also offer an alternative through tough diplomacy. The policy of we're either ignoring you or fighting you, I just don't understand and we do not have the resources nor the will as American people in general to do that all over the world.
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Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
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