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08-06-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
That's quite a stretch there. The New Testament never sanctions polygamy, in fact, quite the opposite.
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Amen! I agree!!
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Can you give a specific Scripture where polygamy is condemned? Yes, the virtues of monogamy are assailed...but polygamy isn't strictly condemned from what I can find.
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I already gave scriptural examples....
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Polygamy is not condoned in the Bible. The hermeneutic law of ‘First Mention’ establishes one man (Adam) being married to one woman (Eve). That first couple is a type of the one bride (the Church) being married to one husband (One God). Genesis 2:24 has “a man” leaving his father and mother so as to become “one flesh” with “his wife.” Such wording indicates a monogamous relationship rather than polygamous. In the past God did ignore certain things due to men’s ignorance, but because of the New Covenant, He now calls all men to repentance (See Acts 14:16, Acts 17:30; Mark 10:5). To help make this marital issue clearer, you might want to look at these: Mat. 19:5, 29; Eph. 5:31, 33; 1Tim. 3:2, 12; Tit. 1:6.
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08-06-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
Whenever you can give me instances of sanctioned Divorce and REMARRIAGE in the NT... and yes i can show you sanctioned Polygamy in the NT... Christ and his many membered Bride
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Please list where this is found.
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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08-06-2008, 08:57 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Please list where this is found.
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right... many membered, but one body. Your wife is allowed all her fingers, toes etc...
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08-06-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
Some people just don't get it.
I think it would take transporting some of these cats backward in time for them to understand how polygamy provided protection for women in ancient culture. That doesn't mean that polygamy as practiced today is anything like it was back then or would be proper today.
Also people are proof texting without looking closely to the details. For example Jesus characterized himself as a groom receiving multiple brides (polygamous)....and Paul admonished Bishops to have only one wife (implying that polygamy had to be present in the early church to warrant this standard). Please don't think this advocates for polygamy. Paul was obviously setting a standard in leadership to provide an influencing example of ideal Christian marriage. However, Paul never condemns polygamy....but he essentially bans polygamists from leadership. This allows the practice to die out instead of breaking up established family orders.
It illustrates wisdom and compassion.
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08-06-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Well bro...you asked and I offered what I had read. Now...these were virgins prepared for their wedding to their groom...obviously polygamous. Christ is represented as a polygamous groom. If it were condemned in the NT would Jesus use an illustration characterizing himself as a polygamous groom? Oh well....that's in the NT.
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So you think the virgins where waiting for their shared husband? Oh my.
Have you ever watched Fiddler on the Roof? Remember the marriage when the townsfolk walked with the groom to meet the bride? They carried lights as they walked with him. This is the type Jewish wedding Jesus is referring to.
The parable's virgins are the female attendants of the bride. We would call them “bridesmaid” today. They were there to prepare the bride and accompany the groom to her side.
The parable of the ten virgins is speaking of being ready for the Kingdom of God. Not about a polygamous marriage between One God and multiple brides.
I suggest you read this parable in context with the other parables around it (See Matthew 25).
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
-DD Benincasa, 12/06/03
www.tkburk.com
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08-06-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
Aquila... folks are too close minded to even consider that anything you have said is remotely possible
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08-06-2008, 09:17 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
So you think the virgins where waiting for their shared husband? Oh my.
Have you ever watched Fiddler on the Roof? Remember the marriage when the townsfolk walked with the groom to meet the bride? They carried lights as they walked with him. This is the type Jewish wedding Jesus is referring to.
The parable's virgins are the female attendants of the bride. We would call them “bridesmaid” today. They were there to prepare the bride and accompany the groom to her side.
The parable of the ten virgins is speaking of being ready for the Kingdom of God. Not about a polygamous marriage between One God and multiple brides.
I suggest you read this parable in context with the other parables around it (See Matthew 25).
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Sorry,, there was no need for the BRIDESMAIDS to be virgins... nor would they have been required to be virgin if they were not going to be his brides
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08-06-2008, 09:17 PM
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Go OLLU Armadillos!!!
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
If this is the mindset of the majority of men on this site, then I don't want any part of it.
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08-06-2008, 09:18 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I wouldn't use that logic. I'm a male and part of the bride. Does that make Jesus "gay married"?
Yeewwww.
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It's about contract, not sex. There is neiher male nor female. Thats the difference!
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08-06-2008, 09:19 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Dora
If this is the mindset of the majority of men on this site, then I don't want any part of it.
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Dora, in all fairness... NO ONE is advocating polygamy on this site. No one.
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"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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