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Old 07-28-2008, 11:19 PM
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Re: Obama's private prayer leaked

Boy, I can't believe I missed all the fun..............AGAIN!
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:25 PM
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Re: Obama's private prayer leaked

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my friend, the reason American Jobs are moving over seas is precisely because our government currently penalizes US companies for NOT moving over seas.


If it was that drastic, then all American companies would be trying to leave. The issue here, I think, is that the companies who have been moving have found it cheaper to train and hire others than it is to train and hire their own countrymen. They have made their "god" their profits and are selling out their country in the process. Shame on them!


America has the second highest corporate tax rate of all nations. THAT is a HUGE penalty for doing business as an American company.


"Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." I guess it is easier to jump ship than it is to use their lobbyists and clout to bring the change they want.


the democrats support for trail lawyers boarders on the psychotic. If you want businesses to stay here, pass tort reform that will prevent them from having to spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year to defend silly lawsuits.


IMHO, the lawsuits are just a very small part of the larger issue, which is money (profits). Call center companies are USUALLY not the subjects of class action and/or frivolous lawsuits. Maybe you should tap the Judicial Branch on their shoulders and explain to them that this is all THEIR fault for allowing the stupid lawsuits to go trial in the first place. Tort reform is needed, but protection for the consumer and fair wages for the workers must be paramount.


there are reasons businesses are leaving here. It is because of the hostile environment our politicians have created for them.

No. It's because they are greedy for more money.


If Obama wants to penalize some group, he ought to start with congress!

How do you propose that the Executive Branch penalize the Legislative Branch?

1399, I appreciate you. but I need to ask you one question. do you remember Civics class in high school? there was a very important lesson in that class. The question is "who controls the purse strings of the US government?


Not one branch controls the purse strings. Without the Executive and the Legislative Branches compromising, there isn't a budget. The Legislative Branch can override Executive vetos, but there haven't been enough of one party to do that, as of late.

Ok, so....
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:08 AM
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Here is the video of the prayer snatching...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7v85iEgvY
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:11 AM
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Here is the video of the prayer snatching...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7v85iEgvY
Now we know he was probably a plant from that Israeli newspaper.

(http://web.israelinsider.com/Article...tics/13021.htm)

(http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=17312)
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:09 PM
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Ok, so....
Frist of all the House of Representatives CONTROL The purse strings of the United States Governmet. (this is a very important point).

Presidents submit budgets, the House writes it (for the most part) because each representative sits closest to the people. It is the design of the republic.

As for companies that are greedy.... well my friend, these companies are in business to make money for thier investors (if you have a 401K that means you). They are REQUIRED to maximize profits or the get the hatchet.

and America is a very hostile place for business as it relates to government controls.

and I have some experience in call centers in the USA... lets just say, I can understand why a company might want to ship that over seas... althought I am against the practice.
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Old 07-30-2008, 02:53 PM
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so true, money is power in washington, all spending bills must originate in the house, so there you have it, presidents can suggest all they want but they need willing accomplices in the house to move it, dt
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:55 PM
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No conspiracy theory here. I am just saying if he has half a brain he knew there was a good chance a reporter or someone was going to retrieve that piece of paper.

It doesn't make him evil. Anyone in his position would know that and probably make sure they took that into consideration with what they wrote.
The custom has always been that the prayer would be private. No one was to see it. Why would he think someone would go against tradition and reveal a private prayer? I honestly believe this act was sincere and he had no idea it would be leaked to the public.
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:06 PM
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The custom has always been that the prayer would be private. No one was to see it. Why would he think someone would go against tradition and reveal a private prayer? I honestly believe this act was sincere and he had no idea it would be leaked to the public.
apparantly the paper that reported this "prayer" is also reporting that the Obama camp told them to pick up the prayer and print it!
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Old 07-30-2008, 04:48 PM
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You are either needing oxygen to support your brain cells or an idiot.

Speak in tongues all you want as you vote for a baby killer.
As far as I know Obama hasn't killed any babies. People voted for Bush because of his religious reliefs on abortion. Sadly Bush has done nothing to change it. Actually, I haven't heard Bush mention it. McCain is for killing them after they are born by sending them to useless wars without causes. Obama is for some good like helping the poor and needy. McCain is for the rich and wealthy. If you are voting or not voting because of their religious or lack of religious beliefs, you can't vote for either. They are politicians. They both lie and are dishonest. It's the little foxes that destroy. Sin is Sin.
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The custom has always been that the prayer would be private. No one was to see it. Why would he think someone would go against tradition and reveal a private prayer? I honestly believe this act was sincere and he had no idea it would be leaked to the public.
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apparantly the paper that reported this "prayer" is also reporting that the Obama camp told them to pick up the prayer and print it!
Yes - read here!


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