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Old 06-11-2008, 11:14 AM
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Re: What was Paul's thorn in the flesh?

how bout that there is hope, but is there a real obama, lol
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:21 AM
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how bout that there is hope, but is there a real obama, lol
Only the Father in heaven knows the answer to that one! BTW, in case you forgot, I am voting for Ron Paul for President!
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:26 AM
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i know, but i do like to joke with you, is he even running, lol
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:27 AM
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Well, PRAISE THE LORD!
Where'd you find that avatar? Makes me giggle, watching it.
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:27 AM
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For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1 Corinthians 1:18

I strongly believe that God doesn't want me to be sick. He doesn't deliberately cause me to suffer, but He has put me in an environment in which pain and suffering are a part. If he chooses not to heal me while on this earth, the one thing that I must remember is that He is preparing me for real life - eternal life - that lies ahead.

That is why I view eternal life as the ultimate healing. Through sickness, I learn love, joy, peace, patience, temperance, goodness, meekness - the ultimate good health until I receive my ultimate healing.

The really important thing when it comes down to it, is that I try to live like Jesus and I accept the forgiveness He gives me. His forgiveness through the cross is the greatest, most important gift, most important 'healing' of all. Everything else He gives me is just a bonus.


"Blessed is the man who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love Him" James 1:12.

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Where have people received this philosophy that God will only heal sometimes?


Read over these four scriptures, then read my remarks:

Isa 53:4-5
Surely He has borne our griefs (sicknesses) and carried our sorrows (pains); yetwe esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our
transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.


Matt 4:23-24
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of
the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.
Then His fame went throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all sick people who were afflicted with various diseases and torments, and those who were
demon-possessed, epileptics, and paralytics; and He healed them.


Matt 8:16-17
When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses."


Matt 9:35
Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.




My bible reads with Jesus there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. It also reads He's the same yesterday, today and forever. It also reads Jesus came to accomplish the will of His father.


After reading about how Jesus healed multitudes, there is no doubt healing was part of the father's will.


Furthermore, He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses.


How can folks assuredly accept his blood for remission of sins, and deny His stripes for healing?

If His blood is readily available for remission of sins, so are His healing stripes.
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You see how confused you are? I said your earlier comment had no value, not you as an individual.


I see the type I'm dealing with.......good day.
You seem to be inordinately hung up on "types". You must live in a very isolated bubble. That is very sad.
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You seem to be inordinately hung up on "types". You must live in a very isolated bubble. That is very sad.
grandad taught me not to judge, but he always said especially someone you dont know, this guy does that , to sad
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Old 06-11-2008, 11:34 AM
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Chosen,


Where have people received this philosophy that God will only heal sometimes?


Read over these four scriptures, then read my remarks:

Isa 53:4-5
Surely He has borne our griefs (sicknesses) and carried our sorrows (pains); yetwe esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our
transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed.


Matt 4:23-24
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of
the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.
Then His fame went throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all sick people who were afflicted with various diseases and torments, and those who were
demon-possessed, epileptics, and paralytics; and He healed them.


Matt 8:16-17
When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses."


Matt 9:35
Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.




My bible reads with Jesus there is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. It also reads He's the same yesterday, today and forever. It also reads Jesus came to accomplish the will of His father.


After reading about how Jesus healed multitudes, there is no doubt healing was part of the father's will.


Furthermore, He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses.


How can folks assuredly accept his blood for remission of sins, and deny His stripes for healing?

If His blood is readily available for remission of sins, so are His healing stripes.
You are correct. The Bible says healings are guaranteed. It is clear and unambiguous on this point (unlike some other doctrines!).

However, healings don't always happen. Draw your own conclusions.
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i know, but i do like to joke with you, is he even running, lol
Brother,

RP is still running for President of the US! In my opinion, he is more honest and geniune than any other choices we have this year.

Check out this link, which tells about his plans to hold an event the second day of the Republican convention:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/us...RF.html?ref=us
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Someone once said that faith is nothing more than trusting God to be God. If I place my trust in Him and He heals me He gets all the glory, If He doesn't He is Sovereign and still gets the praise.

A great way to look at it.
Yes, He is my Healer.
Some times He heals me like I think He should.
Some things He hasn't healed yet, but He is my Healer anyhow.
If He doesn't heal in this life, I will be perfectly healed in eternity.
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