divine flesh and original sin

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Yes Jesus was made from Mary's humanity ,no probelm.Yes Jesus was tempted and could have sinned ,if He would have chosen too ,but He chose not to.But Jesus Christ was not borned a sinner,nor did He participate in sin.

How could Jesus be tempted and could have sinned without a sin nature?

I never said he was born a sinner. Nobody is born a sinner...they are born with a sin nature. A sinner is someone that commits sin. Jesus was tempted in all points like us, LIKE US, yet without sin. Jesus was LIKE US, We are tempted because we have a sin nature

Also again this verse is good

Heb 2:17 Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rrford

Prax disagrees.

I do?

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Agreed.

Some new players have shown up. Pass the popcorn. It may take awhile.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Prax what did David mean here ? Maybe I'm too ignorant to understand such things.
Behold I was shapen in iniquity;and in sin did my mother conceive me.PSALMS 51.:10

Originally Posted by rrford

Prax disagrees.

Yes.

With you.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Perhaps saying sinful nature can be misleading and misinterpreted ... but can we say sin-proned flesh?

How do we reconcile this verse w/ this discussion.

"For we know that the law is spiritual; but I am of the flesh, sold into slavery under sin. I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. Now if I do what I do not want, I agree that the law is good. But in fact it is no longer I that do it, but sin that dwells within me" (Romans 7:14-17, New Revised Standard Version).

Im not sure what point you are trying to make with this

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Prax what did David mean here ? Maybe I'm too ignorant to understand such things.
Behold I was shapen in iniquity;and in sin did my mother conceive me.PSALMS 51.:10

His mother was a sinner. Therefore from the moment he was born with the sin nature he had the ability and the propensity to commit sin

Originally Posted by Praxeas

How could Jesus be tempted and could have sinned without a sin nature?

I never said he was born a sinner. Nobody is born a sinner...they are born with a sin nature. A sinner is someone that commits sin. Jesus was tempted in all points like us, LIKE US, yet without sin. Jesus was LIKE US, We are tempted because we have a sin nature

Also again this verse is good

Heb 2:17 Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.

Again you are right.

A sinner becomes a sinner by sinning...not until.

The "until" never arrived in the life and experience of Jesus.

With the propensity to sin in himself, he was led into temptation but emerged from that temptation without sin, having been made what he was not before the temptation...that is, overcomer.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rrford

Prax disagrees.

Why do you feel he disagrees.

[Scott Hutchinson]

What does this mean ? Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world,and death by sin:and death passed upon all men,for all have sinned
ROMANS 5:12