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Old 02-23-2007, 11:28 AM
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Pastor Poster,

I've long maintained that if I didn't agree with an organization that I simply wouldn't be a part of it. Yes, I have friends that are UPC but I also have some that aren't.

I don't make a living being UPC. I survive by the grace of God because I'm a Man of God. I suspect you do too.

It has long strained my understanding that people (I have no clue if your are or aren't one of them) that continually blast the organization and disagree with so much of what it stands for would ever want to stay in it.

To change it? There are enough flavors of Pentecost out there they could find something more akin to their beliefs in a lot of places.

To keep fellowship? Why seek fellowship with those you vehemently disagree with?

To keep a Church? Disaffiliation is easy enough to do... if even needed as many are not affiliated.

If I disagreed with so much of what it stood for I would find another group and I surely wouldn't sign the, what was it called... ? The 'infernal' statement?

I guess my brand of integrity simply wouldn't allow it.
Steadfast... according to your other post on another Thread you seem to be a moving Target anyways... either your favored or your blasted...
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:29 AM
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I have to chuckle when I see these modern backsliders calling themselves adherents of the "PCI" doctrine.

They don't have any more in common with the old PCI men than modern liberal democrats do with the architects of the New Deal. They both claim a connection with a heritage they have absolutely nothing in common with, and simply want to trade on a name that is respected.

The men of the PCI were mostly men who had come out of denominations that were trinitarian, and had received a revelation of Truth.

They preached their revelation with such passion and fervor that no one would have known by their preaching that they differed from the PAJC men, for the most part.

This was because they had made a move toward Truth and revelation.

They loved this New Birth, Oneness Message.

This new breed are a totally different kettle of fish.

They are moving away from Truth.

They are embarassed to be associated with strong doctrinal men. They would rather identify with those proclaiming an easy-believism message than with the Apostolic church.

So when you try and get them to discuss the doctrine of salvation, they spout clouds of obfuscatory smoke about how it is Jesus who saves, and it is a journey, and blah blah blah.

Nothing solid.

And they call themselves adherents of the "PCI Doctrine."

Well, the men of the old PCI would probably be ashamed to claim them, because they came out from long and deeply rooted belief systems and sold out to preach this Jesus Name message. It cost them something to be able to say "I'm one of them," as the old song says.

Most of these slack-jawed compromisers could preach all day, and if you ran their message through a centrifuge, you couldn't distill half an ounce of good doctrine, nor figure out how to be saved.

PCI?

Yep.

Pathetic Compromising Ingrates.

Now, if that isn't clear enough, let me know and I will try and dial it down a little better for you.
Don't we just love Phariseeical and judgmental posts such as this?
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:30 AM
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Keep singing that and you might remember your first kiss!

It may have been AFTER that first beer and, hence, the reason I didn't remember it!
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:31 AM
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We sing it Pentecostal style..

"there's a tear in my Tea cause I'm crying over thee" ....

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Old 02-23-2007, 11:31 AM
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How about this?

"There's a tear in my heart, cause we seem so far apart,
And He's the only One who saves......."
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:34 AM
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Steadfast... according to your other post on another Thread you seem to be a moving Target anyways... either your favored or your blasted...
Tough hide is always an asset if you genuinely intend to be a Man of God.
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:34 AM
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Pastor Poster,

I've long maintained that if I didn't agree with an organization that I simply wouldn't be a part of it. Yes, I have friends that are UPC but I also have some that aren't.

I don't make a living being UPC. I survive by the grace of God because I'm a Man of God. I suspect you do too.

It has long strained my understanding that people (I have no clue if your are or aren't one of them) that continually blast the organization and disagree with so much of what it stands for would ever want to stay in it.

To change it? There are enough flavors of Pentecost out there they could find something more akin to their beliefs in a lot of places.

To keep fellowship? Why seek fellowship with those you vehemently disagree with?

To keep a Church? Disaffiliation is easy enough to do... if even needed as many are not affiliated.

If I disagreed with so much of what it stood for I would find another group and I surely wouldn't sign the, what was it called... ? The 'infernal' statement?

I guess my brand of integrity simply wouldn't allow it.
here is my problem. which part of the UPCI are you talking about disagreeing with? the 50.1% that dont want to have anything to do with Television or the 49.9% that want to use TV as a too for evangelism and outreach?

See here is the problem. guys like PP and I, probably dont agree with the California Ultra Con on the reasons to pour milk over cereal, but we are almost in lock step with the Louisiana Liberal....both are UPCI...Which side do we have to agree with to stay? With great respect, it aint quite so easy Brother Steadfast...
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Old 02-23-2007, 11:35 AM
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Tru Dat!!!
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Don't we just love Phariseeical and judgmental posts such as this?
this is why the term "day late and a dollar short" was invented.
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