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Old 12-30-2013, 03:55 PM
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I wonder if, in Paul's day, a Jewish congregation had a different platform standard from a Gentile one
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I wonder if, in Paul's day, a Jewish congregation had a different platform standard from a Gentile one
Or if they even had a platform?
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I wonder if, in Paul's day, a Jewish congregation had a different platform standard from a Gentile one
Or if they even had a platform?

Beards for men headcoverings for women?
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Is that how it works though? The entire church decides "we want a standard for the platform"? Without being influenced by the Pastors preaching?

BTW 3 choices? Conform, leave or go? Leave or Go???? Isn't that the same choice?
Your right. I'm absolutely sure that the preacher has the influence, but usually the congregation agrees or the preacher is gone.

Conform, leave or GO as in go to the church, but not be a part.
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Well now should we address the standard of suits and ties?
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Most of this reminds me of the homosexuals and lesbians that don't like what goes on at a church and become very vocal about "offensive" doctrine. Real simple. You don't like it don't go.
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Your right. I'm absolutely sure that the preacher has the influence, but usually the congregation agrees or the preacher is gone.

Conform, leave or GO as in go to the church, but not be a part.
A Lot of OP churches the congregation agrees with the Pastor THEY are gone
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I cannot adequately express how irritating I find this thread.

As much as possible, within the Church, live and let live. If you want to have a beard, attend an assembly that supports that decision, and let the ones who prefer no beards observe their beliefs or preferences without condemnation. If you prefer no beards, let those who prefer to have them do so without judgment.

All this snarking at one another is sickening and deflating. Who cares if someone wears a suit to church, and who cares if another person wears jeans? The person who wears a suit isn't holier than the person who wears jeans, NOR is the person who wears jeans more humble (read: holier) than the person who wears a suit.

Self-righteousness is found in comparing yourself to others and finding yourself and your views to be superior--it doesn't matter which side of the coin you're on when you make that assessment. Take your absolute views from crystal-clear scripture and leave room for variation on everything that can't be clearly found there. Christianity litmus tests need to be limited to the ones that God laid out; not manuals or other man-made filters.
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I cannot adequately express how irritating I find this thread.

As much as possible, within the Church, live and let live. If you want to have a beard, attend an assembly that supports that decision, and let the ones who prefer no beards observe their beliefs or preferences without condemnation. If you prefer no beards, let those who prefer to have them do so without judgment.

All this snarking at one another is sickening and deflating. Who cares if someone wears a suit to church, and who cares if another person wears jeans? The person who wears a suit isn't holier than the person who wears jeans, NOR is the person who wears jeans more humble (read: holier) than the person who wears a suit.

Self-righteousness is found in comparing yourself to others and finding yourself and your views to be superior--it doesn't matter which side of the coin you're on when you make that assessment. Take your absolute views from crystal-clear scripture and leave room for variation on everything that can't be clearly found there. Christianity litmus tests need to be limited to the ones that God laid out; not manuals or other man-made filters.
Hi Sister,

When I don't like a particular thread I either give my opinion about the topic or just ignore it. If you have read what I said I have not said anyone is going to Hell for being clean shaven. Many Apostolics could testify they have heard it the other way around. One is NOT holy but rather rebellious if they have a beard.

Im not trying just to argue. Rather trying to weigh the platform standards of Apostolics in light of their overall doctrine. Specifically they use Duet. 22:5 to preach women INTO HELL if they wear pants. This of course is based on the law of Moses.

However under that same law Lev. 21:5 men are taught to not cut (shave) the edges of your beard!

So I am pointing out the inconsistent nature of this kind of teaching. If we ARE UNDER the law of Moses there is certainly a case for the Duet. 22:5 teaching. By the same standard there would be a strong case to teach and ENCOURAGE men not to shave.

Rather Apostolic Preachers en masse teach if one does have a beard they are not holy enough to sit on their platform.

So in summation I feel this thread is necessary along with the ongoing discussions among the Apostolic community to hasten the day Apostolic ministers will drop standards that do not match those of the New Testament Church. Peace and love.
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Well now should we address the standard of suits and ties?
Oh good grief, it's not a standard....

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