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Old 03-27-2012, 01:55 PM
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Did you listen to the complete 911 call recording? After the police told him not to follow Zimmerman says, "OK". And according to the one witness he was headed back to his vehicle when he was accosted by Martin.

The sad thing is that the media and the Sharptons jump in before the facts can be presented in a lawful manner. Why? Because that is how Al and Jesse make themselves relevant and rich, by ALWAYS playing the race card!!! Otherwise, why don't they jump in when it is black on black murder, or black on white???

Of course, there are cases of abuse, and hate crimes, but that doesn't make this one that, necessarily. Zimmerman must be thoroughly investigated, and justice must be done, but the media circus is just that. If we allow anarchy to rule the day, no one will ever get justice, just chaos.

As bad as you may think the justice system is in this country, can you think of a country in the world that is "less" racist than this country, sorry, but it does not exist. But you would never know it from the screams of the left!!
I did listen to the entire recording more than once. It is clear that the dispatcher wants him to wait for the police by his truck. When he tries to pin down the location of the truck once again, zimmerman says they have the police call him when he gets there so he can tell them where he will be. He clearly always intended to follow him because " they always get away. Did you listen to it well enough to hear the racial slur
it sounds like he mumbled after he said that he's running away?
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Yea the racial slur thing will not hold up.. I listened to it and did not get anything out of that..If anything to me it sounded like someone talking on there cell and walking and breathing hard.. I think folks are hearing what they want to hear on that deal... I absolutly cannot make out anything listening to the tape and I bet 10 to 1 that that the people involved in getting the recording cleared up will not hear anything either...
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:29 PM
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Zimmy?

"And from what I've heard he did".

Do you realize you just disqualified yourself from jury duty? You are being just as biased in this case as you are claiming others to be.
So does Limbaugh or anyone else who participates in public commentary using their real name.


I started this thread, using my real name.

My desire is to encourage awareness and discussion, not to get on jury duty.



Oh and I am not being biased as I claim others to be. No Ma'am.

With what has been presented to the public, with zimrod's quip, "Those ****** always get away," and with everything else presented so far, it is a very safe assumption (if you want to call it such) that zimwit didn't back down when he was told to, that he accosted and harrased a young man (still a minor) minding his own business and when the minor defended himself, he was killed.

Again, the law that zim hopes to find protection in was never meant to be used to shield a person sho starts a fight with someone and then kills that person because the other person defended themselves when they were approached first.


How is it so difficult to see that if zim had simply NOT approached the 17 year old MINOR that none of this would be happening?


The notion that he "looked like suspicious" even looked like a suspicious man doesn't hold up.

In cases of statutory rape, does the argument, "Well she looked like she was old enough" hold any water?


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Old 03-27-2012, 02:32 PM
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Yea the racial slur thing will not hold up.. I listened to it and did not get anything out of that..If anything to me it sounded like someone talking on there cell and walking and breathing hard.. I think folks are hearing what they want to hear on that deal... I absolutly cannot make out anything listening to the tape and I bet 10 to 1 that that the people involved in getting the recording cleared up will not hear anything either...
Possibly, to be honest my assessment of the conversation is pretty much the same with or without the slur
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So does Limbaugh or anyone else who participates in public commentary using their real name.


I started this thread, using my real name.

My desire is to encourage awareness and discussion, not to get on jury duty.
Your desire, awareness and discussion is particularly biased. When I brought out a little background on Trayvon, you called foul. I want to know about BOTH men in this case. I want to hear the FULL argument on BOTH sides. I don't want to hear ONE side.
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To b honest, it is sometimes crazy to see how much bias there is on both sides of issues. The ironic thing is that both sides will swear they are completely objective in the other side is horribly biased
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To b honest, it is sometimes crazy to see how much bias there is on both sides of issues. The ironic thing is that both sides will swear they are completely objective in the other side is horribly biased
It looked like to me, from an overview, that the fix was in for Zimmerman. I am opposed to that line of thinking on supposition.
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Your desire, awareness and discussion is particularly biased. When I brought out a little background on Trayvon, you called foul. I want to know about BOTH men in this case. I want to hear the FULL argument on BOTH sides. I don't want to hear ONE side.
The victim was not a man, he was a minor.


Having weed residue in your book bag a few days ago doesn't mean that on the night in question he was dealing drugs.

However, mental instability and the violent criminal record of the ADULT MALE who killed the minor is relevant because he KILLED someone who was walking along minding his own business and when he was told to not approach his victim, he did so anyway.

"Those __________ are always getting away."


The law that zim hope to protect him was never designed to protect the person who starts an altercation with someone and when that person defends himself, the initiator kills his target.


As for "looking suspicious" or looking like an adult-- that argument never holds up for cases of statutory rape and it should not hold up here.

Or as a society, do we not want consistency when it comes to the application of our laws and the protection of our law abiding citizenry?
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[/RIGHT];1150747]It looked like to me, from an overview, that the fix was in for Zimmerman. I am opposed to that line of thinking on supposition.
And I guess I'm just confused at how to fix can be in for zimmerman or how he could be the target of anything when he created the entire situation. In my view I cannot fathom anyway that he is a victim. He created a situation when there was no situation. He was given instructions by law enforcement professionals, but chose to do God knows what. The end result was that he killed a kid... and just walked away.

He strikes me as 1 of those people who should never ever have been given a gun. Perhaps if he was unarmed, he would of waited in his truck like the police told him to...
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To b honest, it is sometimes crazy to see how much bias there is on both sides of issues. The ironic thing is that both sides will swear they are completely objective in the other side is horribly biased
keeps us from seeing the facts sometimes.
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