left upci yr ago and still messed up

[AreYouReady?]

Isn't one simpler than three?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Isn't one simpler than three?

Touche!

[Jay]

I do believe that there are many who adhere closer to a Oneness understanding of the Godhead, however I have been hearing more people moving closer to the Tritheistic side of the Trinity. The problem with the Trinitarian doctrine is simply that it attempts to balance tritheism with monotheism, and it simply can not be done.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

And yet there are epic arguments, even among "oneness" folk as to what exactly "One God!" means. These debates and ideological battles have the feel of two astrophysicists, one who subscribes to 9 time-space dimensions and the other to 12, engaged in a mental cage match where only one can emerge victories.

And if you don't believe in their exact interpretation of what "One God!" means, you are as lost as two boys kissing!

My husband says just because somebody doesn't understand the oneness of God doesn't mean that they are lost.

[bbyrd009]

I mean, please.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

My husband says just because somebody doesn't understand the oneness of God doesn't mean that they are lost.

that would be if the oneness of God is correct in itself as doctrine. as defined by the upci or OP.

as i have left the UPC As well, i find the Spirit of God moving in trinitarian churches just as much as any upc.

the issue is man tries to limit Gods grace and love to there own view, when God is specific, whoseover will call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

God will go to where people love him.

[AreYouReady?]

But who can define God?
God existed before man's theology. People had faith before they organized together and wrote Articles of Faith.

I just know that my Bible says... The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

(Mark 12:29)

I believe that since God is a Spirit and our Creator of the Universe, He can manifest Himself in any form that He pleases. He is still but one God.

I am just going to believe and quit trying to fit myself into what man says I should believe.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

But who can define God?
God existed before man's theology. People had faith before they organized together and wrote Articles of Faith.

I just know that my Bible says... The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

(Mark 12:29)

I believe that since God is a Spirit and our Creator of the Universe, He can manifest Himself in any form that He pleases. He is still but one God.

I am just going to believe and quit trying to fit myself into what man says I should believe.

I think you will do just Fine then.

[bbyrd009]

Amen to that. You bring up a good point, AYR, in your reflection
of a Hebrew prayer, that has just recently been placed
in front of me:

All those guys we read about in the NT, the "Apostles,"
were all Jewish. Paul was a Rabbi. Why then, is our NT
derived from the Greek? I'm totally ignorant here,
but seeking an English translation of the NT from
Hebrew (they call it a B'rit Chadeshah,
and I have already discovered that Romans
is a midrash, meant to be read differently from,
can't find it now; Books that are not midrash.

[GraceAmazing]

My goodness....without reading all 20 pages, how did this thread get into the debate of oneness vs. trinity...SMH...and yes, that means smack my head in my book!