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Old 09-28-2011, 02:43 PM
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But holiness will have a standard.
There's only one standard:

If you are not as Holy as Jesus Christ, you are NOT holy...
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Old 09-28-2011, 02:52 PM
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There's only one standard:

If you are not as Holy as Jesus Christ, you are NOT holy...
Right. For the guys:



For the ladies, um, can't help ya. Sorry.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:01 PM
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what scripture says this?
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The one right next to scripture about not smoking heroin.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:02 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC

Seriously, A godly person will have a standard about them such as where the go, speech, yes even clothes etc.....
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:07 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC

Never was in the UPC so I didn't have to leave. My Pastor was offended at the AS because he felt it questioned his honesty in filling out his original license application. He almost didn't sign. He believed the Articles of faith.
IF it forced me to lie I would not have signed it. I would never join because I knew men who did not believe the necessity of the new birth message.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:39 PM
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Seriously, A godly person will have a standard about them such as where the go, speech, yes even clothes etc.....
A godly person does not set up a standard...the speak, dress, do all things as the HolyGhost leads them...Rom 8:14
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:48 PM
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A godly person does not set up a standard...the speak, dress, do all things as the HolyGhost leads them...Rom 8:14
how ever it's worded it still leads to a standard of godliness.
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There's only one standard:

If you are not as Holy as Jesus Christ, you are NOT holy...
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:56 PM
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I've said before Steve i think your a good man however, i have a question,given that its not a heaven or hell issue according to the Bible, why would YOU want to make it possible for anyone to NOT go to heaven via your church,due to your tastes?
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Old 09-28-2011, 04:26 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC

Hard to believe this is an issue among Spirit filled people. When I saw Oneness doctrine in the late 70's I thought I would find a real New Testament Church. Was I ever wrong. My Pastor told me "The standards are not Heaven or Hell they are just the standard of the Church".

Yet when Evangelists came in they did teach it that way and he would be amening them and saying what "honest" men they were.

It made it next to impossible to bring people to Church. I loved Oneness doctrine and Acts 2:38 truth but found in other areas the "Apostolics" were just as off as Trins were on those issues.

What really shocked me was when I drove 400 miles to vist the UPC Bookstore. I thought I would really find some great treasures in truth. Yet upon arrival what I found was a place full of Protestant books.

I asked the sales lady if they had any books by Apostolic Authors. She showed me a very small little shelf and that was it. I hardly encountered such hypocrisy. Out preaching day and night that Protestants were deceivers going to Hell and 98% of the books in their store were written by Protestants.

I still believe strongly in Oneness. I believe in the three step plan of salvation. I believe in Biblical perfection as in the sermon on the mount.

To me the "standard of holiness" is to be obedient to all the teachings of Jesus Christ. Not a few outward changes in clothing.
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