I have found it unwise to argue with people about their departed kin.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
So what's the consensus? Jerry Falwell ....... saved or lost?
If all that's been said about his beliefs is true AND he didn't change his views between when he finished breakfast (last time he was seen) and when he died, then he is lost according to God's word.
It blows my mind that some on here who, had they known this man's fate today, would have taken him early this morning, planted him in a chair and preached Acts 2:38 to him lest he go to hell. But, NOW? NOW........they're not so sure he's lost?? How strange!
PLEASE TELL ME -- what happened between you're needing to preach obedience to the Gospel to him yesterday and his death today? Did God change the requirements? Did water baptism in the name of the Lord all of the sudden NOT apply to him? Did the baptism of the Holy Ghost all of the sudden NOT apply to him?
I'm am SOOOO thankful for men who will witness the same truth today as they did yesterday, last week, last year and the first time they saw this truth!
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Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
Though you brought up many of JF's past sins and failures, I know that we all have sinned against God. Now, I never agreed with many of the things he did during his lifetime; however, who am I to judge him?
We should pray for his family and stop bashing the man!
I wasn't bashing the man nor did I judge him. I simply disagree he is a great or solid Christian leader. Never said he was lost. Never denied he was a great leader or a Christian. I just would not classify him as a great christian leader
Our opinions don't really mean anything and I certaintly don't care to express mine. :-)
They certainly do matter if you know their loved ones who remain believed the same as they did!!
No, it's not going to be easy to reach them now, because to accept this truth they'll have to admit he's lost. It will take the pure wisdom of God for someone to reach them when they've grieved thoroughly enough to even listen to truth.
I've got the same situation with my wife who lost her brother 10 years ago. I find it more imperative now to try to reach her and her parents. What I know tells me that they are LOST, and if they DIE THAT WAY they will STAY that way.
Yes, our opinions DO matter! If I don't believe JF was lost, why would I feel compelled to go reach for the man dying of cancer or AIDS?? I could just give it the ol' "it's in God's hands" attitude, but I don't think God would be too happy about that.
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And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
No consensus? You mean some think he's lost and some think he's saved and some don't know but ultimately God is the Judge and will make that decision. Has already, I guess, since the man is dead.
Well, what do you know eh?!
Very few here actually commented about the man's salvation. In actuallity, despite what others tried to make it, it was just an expression of our opinions as to what status he had while here. Some sadly took it too personally. Oh well
They certainly do matter if you know their loved ones who remain believed the same as they did!!
No, it's not going to be easy to reach them now, because they'll have to admit he's lost. It will take the wisdom of God for someone to reach them when they've grieved thoroughly enough to even listen to truth.
I've got the same situation with my wife who lost her brother 10 years ago. I find it more imperative now to try to reach her and her parents. What I know tells me that they are LOST, and if they DIE THAT WAY they will STAY that way.
Yes, our opinions DO matter! If I don't believe JF was lost, why would I feel compelled to go reach for the man dying of cancer or AIDS?? I could just give it the ol' "it's in God's hands" attitude, but I don't think God would be too happy about that.
I meant that our opinions DO not matter as far as whether he is in Heaven or Hell.
Put 'em in heaven, but GOD FORBID anyone put 'em in hell!!!
I can't believe people won't make a statement that someone was lost.
OG, is it our job to put him in hell? The man is dead and has faced God without knowing the Truth. and you are kicking the corps.
lets get this part real clear. YOU cant preach ANY Gospel to Mr Falwell. He is dead and YOU are kicking his corps. that is bad form dude. There is no longer a question about mans destiny. but YOU are hacking away at a dead body. for what? do you feel better? Proud of yourself? make you more confident in your salvation?
IT IS A DEAD BODY DUDE!
dont speak ill of the dead. it is bad form.
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OGIA here's the thing and yes it matters what one believes.
Suppose you are trying to reach folks who are not very grounded in the word ,and they have just lost a loved one wouldn't it be better to use tact , and try to use wisdom to reach these folks ,in time if they get grounded they'll come to ubderstand things.
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