I was asked to leave AMF for Apostolic Ministry - Page 20

Jon Alfaro · #**191** 06-22-2010, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Seems to be a lot of fear abounding in forum land. We can hide from others and sometimes even ourselves. But we cannot hide from God, and we reveal our true selves to Him. And that includes preachers, teachers, doctors, lawyers, etc....... And sometimes, we find some truths about others that they thought were hidden. What was said about hurting the least of these? Sometimes it literally hurts my heart to read some things on an Apostolic forums.

This is a statement that I think if posted on every single forum even the ones we like and dislike would ring true on all ears.

pelathais · #**192** 06-22-2010, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

Well that is because its a ministers forum. This one is not and I can respect that. Many men come on those closed forums to vent at times. If you are a minister than you can understand how hard it is at times to simply speak your mind and speak it to people who understand. Like I said, if you are a minister you can understand... Its not because anything unethical is being discussed just simply so men can speak freely. In a sense the veil of the anonymous SN's here are similar to the idea of a closed forum.

Both seem to be reasonable venues - just different purposes. It's probably best not to play the "Klan card" then, don't you think?

Jon Alfaro · #**193** 06-22-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Both seem to be reasonable venues - just different purposes. It's probably best not to play the "Klan card" then, don't you think?

It was simply the best example at the moment. Nothing malicious intended.

pelathais · #**194** 06-22-2010, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

It was simply the best example at the moment. Nothing malicious intended.

Comparing someone to the KKK is not intended as "malicious?"

Jon Alfaro · #**195** 06-22-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Comparing someone to the KKK is not intended as "malicious?"

context is a beautiful thing and the beauty of my context was in the desire for anonymity.

Encryptus · #**196** 06-22-2010, 10:18 PM

More fun than hot babes mud wrestling.

This has been a real cat fight.

And such a tremendous witness to boot.

pelathais · #**197** 06-22-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

context is a beautiful thing and the beauty of my context was in the desire for anonymity.

Your statement originally spoke out against the anonymity many have found on this forum. Now you are trying to recast what you said as "a desire for anonymity?" You are appearing to be as unstable as water.

SteppingStone · #**198** 06-22-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Comparing someone to the KKK is not intended as "malicious?"

I'm confused here. Was he comparing you to the KKK or was he implying the UPC was a mask for the KKK???

Jon Alfaro · #**199** 06-22-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Your statement originally spoke out against the anonymity many have found on this forum. Now you are trying to recast what you said as "a desire for anonymity?" You are appearing to be as unstable as water.

My statement was referring to the desire for anonymity on a public forum.

In parallel to KKK they chose anonymity because often or not the members were highly respected men of the community. Mayors, Sheriffs, etc all wore the hood so they could freely express their thought yet maintain status with the hood off.

So my parallel to KKK is purely in reference to the anonymity in the way they desired it. Not in the mindset or spirit behind that org. Please don't make this something it is not.

Jason B · #**200** 06-22-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

Well that is because its a ministers forum. This one is not and I can respect that. Many men come on those closed forums to vent at times. If you are a minister than you can understand how hard it is at times to simply speak your mind and speak it to people who understand. Like I said, if you are a minister you can understand... Its not because anything unethical is being discussed just simply so men can speak freely. In a sense the veil of the anonymous SN's here are similar to the idea of a closed forum.

Whoa, Bro. Alfaro, that one was a doozie. "Not because anything unethical is being discussed?" I completely agree with the statement about "venting", though I disagree the internet is the place to do it. And if so, let it be done by PM to a close friend in the ministry. But in my experience with closed forums (see AMF) "venting" was the last reason anyone would want to keep the threads secret.

Well, unless damning all of creation to hell because they wear short sleeves, have a TV, believe that maybe, just maybe ONE single trinitarian in the history of the church MIGHT have been saved apart from their religious dogma, amongst a host of other UNBIBLICAL reasons to say someone is going to hell, and manifesting not a LOVE for sinners or erring brothers, but rather quite the OPPOSITE. Well, then, maybe those men are better off not having those same threads become public knowledge. And I tend to think that some of the "jokes" would even by offensive to these rebrobates over at AFF. Maybe Ephesians 5:4 should be taken a little more seriously.

JA, if your coming over to AFF to beat the AMF drum, at least tell it like it is.