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View Poll Results: Do you believe and/or teach that standards are heaven or hell issues?
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Absolutely. I believe and teach that standards are heaven or hell issues.
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I believe that standards should be followed, but they do not necessarily affect salvation.
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I do not believe standards are salvational, but I teach them in compliance with the organization.
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I do not believe or teach that standards are salvational.
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I teach that standards are matters of consecration, but are not salvational.
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I don't know.
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04-18-2007, 11:38 PM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by tv1a
I'm all for working together. I would be honored to join with you to win the lost. I'm not against anyone's personal standards. I'm against making one's personal standards an universal barometer for salvation. That is what hacks me off the most.
Good message...
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Well, I typed and deleted and typed and deleted. LOL!
I really don't have much to say on the subject. Every man is accountable for his own life. I can't live mine for other people. You can't live yours for me.
That's it in a nutshell.
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04-18-2007, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Thomas Nelson's Study Bible says that word tradition when taken in context is referring to the "revealed truth of God which contains no error." It is obvious the traditions many stick with contains error, thus Paul's traditions are different than traditions that are followed today.
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Agreed. But the issue is going to be just what is the "revelaed truth of God?"
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04-18-2007, 11:39 PM
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God's Son
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I'm with... Thank God every day you're alive you don't have to live my life... lol Press on
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Well, I typed and deleted and typed and deleted. LOL!
I really don't have much to say on the subject. Every man is accountable for his own life. I can't live mine for other people. You can't live your's for me.
That's it in a nutshell.
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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04-18-2007, 11:40 PM
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www.capitalcommunity.ca
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Originally Posted by Brother Price
It is impossible for a person to claim modestyand wear jewelry that costs hundreds or thousands of dollars just for appearances.
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Whats ur thoughts on driving lincolns and cadillacs?
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04-18-2007, 11:40 PM
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I'm with... Thank God every day you're alive you don't have to live my life... lol Press on
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And you don't have to live mine? lol!
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04-18-2007, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
Whats ur thoughts on driving lincolns and cadillacs?
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Hello!!!! Lincoln!!!! 
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04-18-2007, 11:44 PM
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God's Son
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Two things to remember about truth. Truth is universal. Truth is absolute. Dress Code equals salvation supporters fall short in the definition of truth because not only is a dress code not be universal, and no one can agree on one absolute code. You can't even get people to agree with everything in the upci manual, how can one make a man-made dress code a barometer of salvation?
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Originally Posted by rrford
Agreed. But the issue is going to be just what is the "revelaed truth of God?"
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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04-18-2007, 11:45 PM
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Not riding the train
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Two things to remember about truth. Truth is universal. Truth is absolute. Dress Code equals salvation supporters fall short in the definition fo truth because not only is a dress code not be universal, but no one can agree on one absolute code. You can't even get people to agree with everything in the upci manual, how can one make a man-made dress code a barometer of salvation?
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I'm not certain you can have a universal code when personal conviction comes into play.
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04-18-2007, 11:47 PM
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Step By Step - Day By Day
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'm not certain you can have a universal code when personal conviction comes into play.
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Personal conviction or Holy Ghost conviction? Who can judge which is which?
 
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Smiles & Blessings....
~Felicity Welsh~
(surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
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04-18-2007, 11:48 PM
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My Family!
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'm not certain you can have a universal code when personal conviction comes into play.
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If it's salvational though, it should be consistent.
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