Is Obesity a Sin?

[DebraBunnyLuv]

Hey just jumping in here. I just joined AFF.

God has really been dealing w/me about food and nutrition for the last few months. The picture that is emerging is not so much a case of individuals being gluttonous but rather a nation trapped in an agricultural-industrial system that is inherently unhealthy and disease promoting.

Obesity has NOT been widespread throughout history. It's a recent phenomenon linked to a 'standard American diet' based on cheap, highly processed foods and heavy on meat and animal products. All of which is based on a system of massive government subsidies of corn, soy, wheat, etc. created during the Nixon Administration.

Massive amounts of these crops are grown and either fed to factory farmed animals (who are engineered to eat grass and get sick on the grain, necessitating tons of antibiotics) or run through complex chemical processes which create a variety of artificial additives like high fructose corn syrup. This stuff forms a cheap base for junk and processed food.

God never intended the human body to to thrive on ho ho's, big macs, coca cola, cheetos, wonder bread and Little Debbie's, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, genetically modified soybeans that can tolerate Monsanto Roundup poison (blah blah blah).

Anyway I could go on forever but Michael Pollan's book An Omnivore's Dilemma does a pretty good job of spelling it out. I've also heard that the documentary "Food, Inc" is a good intro. If God didn't make it, don't eat it.

[ApostleGRJohn]

No! God wants us to be pleantiful! If it is a sin, I hope the Lord convicts me soon cause I would be the biggest sinner! Literally!

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by DebraBunnyLuv

Hey just jumping in here. I just joined AFF.

God has really been dealing w/me about food and nutrition for the last few months. The picture that is emerging is not so much a case of individuals being gluttonous but rather a nation trapped in an agricultural-industrial system that is inherently unhealthy and disease promoting.

Obesity has NOT been widespread throughout history. It's a recent phenomenon linked to a 'standard American diet' based on cheap, highly processed foods and heavy on meat and animal products. All of which is based on a system of massive government subsidies of corn, soy, wheat, etc. created during the Nixon Administration.

Massive amounts of these crops are grown and either fed to factory farmed animals (who are engineered to eat grass and get sick on the grain, necessitating tons of antibiotics) or run through complex chemical processes which create a variety of artificial additives like high fructose corn syrup. This stuff forms a cheap base for junk and processed food.

God never intended the human body to to thrive on ho ho's, big macs, coca cola, cheetos, wonder bread and Little Debbie's, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, genetically modified soybeans that can tolerate Monsanto Roundup poison (blah blah blah).

Anyway I could go on forever but Michael Pollan's book An Omnivore's Dilemma does a pretty good job of spelling it out. I've also heard that the documentary "Food, Inc" is a good intro. If God didn't make it, don't eat it.

Good post if more people truly ate right we could get rid of alot of disese like diebetis, heart failer, colesteral just to name a few. Another good book is Fit for life, can't think of the author at the moment but he has some good info.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by DebraBunnyLuv

Hey just jumping in here. I just joined AFF.

God has really been dealing w/me about food and nutrition for the last few months. The picture that is emerging is not so much a case of individuals being gluttonous but rather a nation trapped in an agricultural-industrial system that is inherently unhealthy and disease promoting.

Obesity has NOT been widespread throughout history. It's a recent phenomenon linked to a 'standard American diet' based on cheap, highly processed foods and heavy on meat and animal products. All of which is based on a system of massive government subsidies of corn, soy, wheat, etc. created during the Nixon Administration.

Massive amounts of these crops are grown and either fed to factory farmed animals (who are engineered to eat grass and get sick on the grain, necessitating tons of antibiotics) or run through complex chemical processes which create a variety of artificial additives like high fructose corn syrup. This stuff forms a cheap base for junk and processed food.

God never intended the human body to to thrive on ho ho's, big macs, coca cola, cheetos, wonder bread and Little Debbie's, MSG, chemicals you can't pronounce, genetically modified soybeans that can tolerate Monsanto Roundup poison (blah blah blah).

Anyway I could go on forever but Michael Pollan's book An Omnivore's Dilemma does a pretty good job of spelling it out. I've also heard that the documentary "Food, Inc" is a good intro. If God didn't make it, don't eat it.

IMO, your post is absolutely on target and should be a part of any honest obesity discussion, chronic sickness and imno-deficiencies that plague our population.

Some folks have been too pre-occupied with P&G corporate ICONic pomp and likely missed Satan's coprrupting legions at Monsanto. AS A COUNTRY we have got to get labelling on any food product that contains Genetically damaged products...this will at least give the ambulance-chasing tort lawyers a motive to wear-out the profiteers of such practices.

FOOD, INC will provide you many compelling perspectives....but nothing shocked me more than the understanding that VIRUSes are the nano-infantry of bioengineering distortions.

Wormwood is a gathering storm.

[jfrog]

... all I can say is wow. Please tell me yall aren't the kinda people who only eat and only advocate eating genetically unaltered food that had no chemicals of any kind sprayed on it.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by jfrog

... all I can say is wow. Please tell me yall aren't the kinda people who only eat and only advocate eating genetically unaltered food that had no chemicals of any kind sprayed on it.

Good point. No way to avoid the "spray" or the "process". We don't live on that kind of Planet, at least for now.

Good choices may include foods that aren't perfect, but at least better than some of the junk dished out from Ronald or the King.

Been so busy lately, and hardly have had a chance to get on here to see what drama has overtaken AFF...

Hope you're all behaving!!!

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by jfrog

... all I can say is wow. Please tell me yall aren't the kinda people who only eat and only advocate eating genetically unaltered food that had no chemicals of any kind sprayed on it.

frog,
how you made the jump to connecting genetically altered DNA strands with pesticide-free fruit and vegetables is baffling to this reader.

Genetics is the core design of a thing. IMO, if using a virus is the only means to accomplish this required deception (on a cellular subsystem level), the process is not a GOD-plan.

So PLEASE let me say, I AM among the people who you would wag you head at hearing about, folks who, with informed labelling, would reject genetically altered food products.

I certainly am not out to stop your complete enjoyment of all the HFCS that your pancreas can sucrete insulin for....and if your preference is genetically modified grain products, it would seem the USA grocery isle may well become your oyster.

[Eniratak]

Originally Posted by Godsdrummer

Good post if more people truly ate right we could get rid of alot of disese like diebetis, heart failer, colesteral just to name a few. Another good book is Fit for life, can't think of the author at the moment but he has some good info.

Not exactly true. Diabetes isn't caused by being obese. There are plenty of people who have diabetes that are not fat and live healthy lives despite the fact that they have a disease.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Eniratak

Not exactly true. Diabetes isn't caused by being obese. There are plenty of people who have diabetes that are not fat and live healthy lives despite the fact that they have a disease.

Not exactly true either. Certain types ARE known to be associated with a persons overall size, such as Type B.

[Eniratak]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Not exactly true either. Certain types ARE known to be associated with a persons overall size, such as Type B.

Well yes, Type 2.
But it seems like diabetes is always associated with being obese and that isn't always the case.
So even if you 'eat right and are healthy', it won't get rid of diabetes completely.