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09-14-2008, 10:16 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
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Originally Posted by DerrickS
We seem to be jumping from a "no demons" or "all demons" argument. It's simple. Demons can influence us to sin. We can sin all by ourselves. These are not mutually exclusive.
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I agree, but for some to say demons have nothing to do with any given sin is error, too. Devils tempt us, whether they enter our lives or not, ALL THE TIME.
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09-14-2008, 10:37 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
His last cd, "Carry On" made me think he was leaving Christian music. I never would have imagined that Ray Boltz would have struggled with this sin.
I definitely would never have thought that this man would simply embrace any sin. His music has really encouraged and has helped me in my walk with the Lord.
This is a sad thread.
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09-14-2008, 10:53 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
Check this out from Boltz's website. I thought it was kind of funny actually...
SPECIAL CLEARANCE SALE!!!
We are selling all remaining stock of out of print Ray Boltz t-shirts at a discounted price. Limited numbers and sizes are available, so order soon to take advantage of this sale!! When these shirts sell out, they will not be restocked. T-shirts are ONLY available in the sizes listed in the store.
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09-14-2008, 11:11 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
Did Ray and Micki Mangun recently do a concert at her SIL's church?
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09-14-2008, 11:22 PM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Ray Boltz????
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Did Ray and Micki Mangun recently do a concert at her SIL's church?
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No - that was Russ Taff.
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09-14-2008, 11:54 PM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
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Check this out from Boltz's website. I thought it was kind of funny actually...
SPECIAL CLEARANCE SALE!!!
We are selling all remaining stock of out of print Ray Boltz t-shirts at a discounted price. Limited numbers and sizes are available, so order soon to take advantage of this sale!! When these shirts sell out, they will not be restocked. T-shirts are ONLY available in the sizes listed in the store.
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Sounds like they are wanting to make any money they can before no one wants to buy any of it after they learn of Boltz' lifestyle.
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09-15-2008, 12:44 AM
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Matthew 7:6
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Re: Ray Boltz????
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Originally Posted by Carpenter
Check this out from Boltz's website. I thought it was kind of funny actually...
SPECIAL CLEARANCE SALE!!!
We are selling all remaining stock of out of print Ray Boltz t-shirts at a discounted price. Limited numbers and sizes are available, so order soon to take advantage of this sale!! When these shirts sell out, they will not be restocked. T-shirts are ONLY available in the sizes listed in the store.
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Clearance sale, huh?
Interesting.
I don't think there's gong to be a stampede to buy Ray Boltz t-shirts... at any price.
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09-15-2008, 01:10 AM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
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Okay who is Ray Boltz?????????????????/ No I am not kidding.
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You haven't missed much actually. Just a fella singing a few gooey songs that bring a bunch of people to tears, but doesn't say anything about how to be saved, how to destroy sin, or how to live a Godly life.
THIS cracks me up, how he is one of the charasmatic artists the apostolic church fell in love with...well, on second thought, it doesn't crack me up, it really IS pretty sad.
Amos above said it in a nut shell.
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09-15-2008, 07:53 AM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
Romans 1 is very enlightening. Worshipping the creature more than the Creator is a step down the road to perversion.
Musicians and people whose gifts help lead people in worship have to be very careful or they will begin to subtly lay claim to the accolades and the worship that accompanies their music.
Homosexuality is a perversion, a self-love so great that one is attracted to a mirror image of what they are rather than the opposite. It is a form of sexual narcissism.
This is why musicians are particularly vulnerable.
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09-15-2008, 07:59 AM
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Re: Ray Boltz????
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Originally Posted by Amos
Homosexuality is a perversion, a self-love so great that one is attracted to a mirror image of what they are rather than the opposite. It is a form of sexual narcissism.
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I never heard that before. Is this an observation you've made? Something you read?
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