Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pro31:28

Rico, While I agree with your general argument, I have to take issue with your last statement. It's not true. Did any "fat" or "pleasantly Plump" people come out of concentration camps?

Those people were completely starved. No one in their right mind is going to starve themselves that way.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Wow! Looks like Elder E got under some skin. Well, anyway smoking is a sin as well as gluttony, but the plain truth of it is............................smoking is still a sin. Trying to justify smoking by bringing in gluttony is just a smokescreen that many of us shouldn't fall for. I understand that there are quite a few of you who have had issues with smoking and I thank God that you were delivered. Those of you that were delivered know that smoking is wrong, otherwise, you wouldn't have sought for deliverance and tried to quit because your conscience was eating at you.

Brother Eastman, the Bible pretty much spells out what sin is, and I don't recall seeing smoking on the list. I agree it is bad for the body, but this notion that it's sin is just popular opinion.

[AbundantGrace]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother Eastman, the Bible pretty much spells out what sin is, and I don't recall seeing smoking on the list. I agree it is bad for the body, but this notion that it's sin is just popular opinion.

The traditions of men... PEOPLE!!!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Brad Murphy

For the record, I don't smoke and never have... I just consider it another vice like coffee (which I DO drink), which is just a liquid stimulant that more people are addicted to than they will admit.

Nicotine and caffeine are in the same family of drugs.

[Nahum]

The seedy side of AFF.


People justifying their sins.

[steve p]

Hmmmmm
So many addictions have consequences that affect others in the immediate. The alcoholic who drives drunk, hits another car, people are killed. The drug addict who breaks into a home to steal so he can supply his habit. But, what about the pastor who can't stay away from the chinese buffet. Or, the music minister who spends way too much time away from the family while working for the church. These actions don't break the law, cause immediate death, nor are there dire consequences immediately. But, are they sinful?
Hmmm....I believe anything that controls me and that I am not in control of is sin. If something other than God is in charge of what I do, how I act, where I go, etc. then I am in sin. ANYTHING that seperates me from God is sinful.
ANYTHING that takes the place of God is sinful. Now, I think the right thing to do is get this telephone pole of judgementalism out of my eye before I get the toothpick of smoking out of yours.

Sober 17 years
Non-Smoker/Tobacco user 3 years
Judge and Jury......still working on that....and by the way ....that KILLS too!
Blessings!
Steve

[AbundantGrace]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The seedy side of AFF.


People justifying their sins.

The self-righteous pharisees of AFF.

People attaching yokes upon people that aren't of God.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The seedy side of AFF.


People justifying their sins.

Put PP down in the "smoking is a sin" category.

[AbundantGrace]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Put PP down in the "smoking is a sin" category.

Oh, I've already got him in another category.

The MDP - Modern Day Pharisees

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

The seedy side of AFF.


People justifying their sins.

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

The self-righteous pharisees of AFF.

People attaching yokes upon people that aren't of God.

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Put PP down in the "smoking is a sin" category.

Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Oh, I've already got him in another category.

The MDP - Modern Day Pharisees

Because I think smoking is a sin?



Dude, you're warped.