Does no one accept responsibility any more?

[Tiberius Pantera]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Hey...if Julie gets laid off and looses her health insurance and she finds herself unable to get coverage...can I count on some of you fine Christian folks to send her a "Sorry to hear you're going to die...but life's not fair.", card?

Is Julie currently looking for another Job?

has Julie been looking for a more secure posisiton since things got shaky at her current employment?

Has Julie been working to make herself more marketable over the last 3 or 4 years?

these are all very important questions.

[DividedThigh]

the blame game, that is grass hoppers game, dt

Originally Posted by Ron

I never tolerate abuse!

Consider this though, while we are talking right now there is untold death destruction and misery in SE Asia!

In China & Myanmar anyone of those people would trade an arm and a leg just to have the lowest position in society in North America!

Problems, yes, corruption, very much so, can we improve?

We can, and need to, but whining about it will not change it.

True...but right now as we speak, this year 18,000 people will die from treatable conditions because they couldn't afford their health care. I can't do much for Asia...but I can do what I can for fellow Americans.

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by T. Pantera

Is Julie currently looking for another Job?

has Julie been looking for a more secure posisiton since things got shaky at her current employment?

Has Julie been working to make herself more marketable over the last 3 or 4 years?

these are all very important questions.

careful grass hopper, that sounds like personal responsiblity, grass dont believe in that dope, dt

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

True...but right now as we speak, this year 18,000 people will die from treatable conditions because they couldn't afford their health care. I can't do much for Asia...but I can do what I can for fellow Americans.

Then do it and quit trying to take my money for your health care.

Originally Posted by T. Pantera

Is Julie currently looking for another Job?

has Julie been looking for a more secure posisiton since things got shaky at her current employment?

Has Julie been working to make herself more marketable over the last 3 or 4 years?

these are all very important questions.

Yes she has. She's only staying where she's at right now because the last two jobs would cause her to have to change insurance policies and she couldn't afford the new policies and her condition was listed as "Pre-existing". She's pretty marketable. I don't think she'll have a problem getting a job. It's the insurance coverage for her treatments that we're all worried about.

[nathan_slatter]

Here's how it should go:

1. Stop any special treatment that the corporations recieve as corporations. There is no way to hold them accountable to their indiscretions. That BearStearn corporation should have bit the dust. That's corporate socialism. If a company makes stupid decisions about their business -- then they don't deserve to exist. They're stinking entities -- not human -- so why should my dollar be sabotaged because of a corporation.

2. Stop lobbying. Call it what it is -- bribery. If you get caught using lobbyist you should go to jail.

3. The only rights a person is guaranteed is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. These are thing things that the government should guarentee. Everything else is provided by local/state government.

And, it is stealing when I don't agree with where the money goes after it leaves my pay. Stealing from me to give to someone else, regardless of the reason, is theft. Robin Hood -- as cool as he was -- was still a thief and a robber at the end of the day.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

True...but right now as we speak, this year 18,000 people will die from treatable conditions because they couldn't afford their health care. I can't do much for Asia...but I can do what I can for fellow Americans.

Welll, health care reform is coming to America.
It is just a matter of what kind & in what form.


Time will tell if it fixes anything or makes it better.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by T. Pantera

Like I said, some folk take a beating because they walk up to the guy who can adminster a beating and say "beat me"

that dude, doesnt really have a complaint.

I don't generally see him doing that, though. I can't say that I have read all of his posts, mainly because he had this tendency to write 18 paragraphs at a time, but I have watched him make his viewpoint known only to get jumped on by a few select posters. Most of the time it's just part of forum life, but lately it seems to have gotten more personal in nature. My guess is he's getting to the point that he feels defensive before he even posts anything because he knows someone is going to start calling him names.

[Tiberius Pantera]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

Yes she has. She's only staying where she's at right now because the last two jobs would cause her to have to change insurance policies and she couldn't afford the new policies and her condition was listed as "Pre-existing". She's pretty marketable. I don't think she'll have a problem getting a job. It's the insurance coverage for her treatments that we're all worried about.

hmm. because i have changed jobs several times with no issue going to the new employer related to pre existing condition.

something doesnt sound right here.