It's Time to Head Down to Splitsville

[Praxeas]

Man...you'd think a ROCK station would be the best place...no not because of the word ROCK....why do we think the only place to preach the truth is in a place where everyone has already heard it?

That's what I don't get about the TV thing...we could possibly read millions and millions....and why not? Because TV bad.

[Tina]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Man...you'd think a ROCK station would be the best place...no not because of the word ROCK....why do we think the only place to preach the truth is in a place where everyone has already heard it?

That's what I don't get about the TV thing...we could possibly read millions and millions....and why not? Because TV bad.

The thing about advertising is that people automatically assume if you advertise on a radio station, you support all of the programming on that station. I guess that is why they were against any advertising on a rock music station. Although, many that would be listening to that station are the very people they'd want to reach.

Same with an advertisement for a church. What a shame if the invitation to visit a church/advertisement for a church were given during one of the "trash" programs that was shown on TV. They just MIGHT have a "sinner" who was viewing the "trash" program to show up...

I'm getting out of this thread.. I don't need to be involved here....

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by The Antagonist

I thought that I registered my lack of comprehension. Maybe the statement is too lofty for the likes of such as I to attain to, but just bear with me. I too, given enough time, come to recognize a great mind when manifested enough.

Now here are the two parts that left me...breathless:

First this part:



And then this part:



Thank you for your help.

I see. I guess I just read as I would most political situations. People choose sides. Then they do whatever it takes to promote their side, and feel that they have "won." Innocent people wind up getting hurt, because neither side is interested in getting a win-win. Instead, they want a us-win-them-lose sort of proposition. It happens the same way in the church. Pastors do the same thing when they decide I am "for," or "against," and they start preaching it, talking it, leading it, and the folks in their church are often harmed in the process. Some don't agree. Of those, some stand against and that is harmful. Some don't agree, but keep their mouths shut and their feelings to themselves, but never understand why they no longer able to fellowship with folks they have known and loved for years--or why they don't see Bro. and Sis. So-and-So at Camp Meeting. They wonder why the org they have loved and been a part of for years is splitting, or fighting at least.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Tina

The thing about advertising is that people automatically assume if you advertise on a radio station, you support all of the programming on that station. I guess that is why they were against any advertising on a rock music station. Although, many that would be listening to that station are the very people they'd want to reach.

Same with an advertisement for a church. What a shame if the invitation to visit a church/advertisement for a church were given during one of the "trash" programs that was shown on TV. They just MIGHT have a "sinner" who was viewing the "trash" program to show up...

I'm getting out of this thread.. I don't need to be involved here....

Did they oppose it when we advertised in NewsWeek or whatever it was?

It seems kinda ridiculous that the last place we would want to reach the lost would be on TV...why good does it do to preach to the choir?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Man...you'd think a ROCK station would be the best place...no not because of the word ROCK....why do we think the only place to preach the truth is in a place where everyone has already heard it?

That's what I don't get about the TV thing...we could possibly read millions and millions....and why not? Because TV bad.

This was back when there were fewer automated stations. No Internet, No iPod, no XP.

This particular station later changed to Talk Format and was one of the first to do so.

I am not sure if Harvestime is the best argument for now, but then it was the best preaching heard.

Same arguments used then are being used pro and con for Advertising on TV.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Did they oppose it when we advertised in NewsWeek or whatever it was?

It seems kinda ridiculous that the last place we would want to reach the lost would be on TV...why good does it do to preach to the choir?

I think the overall cost of the HMD adverts for Pentecost Sunday in USA Today/Time and a Canadian magazine became too great. It seemed to move to a local advertising where the local church sent out flyers. I have not seen it even promoted much at all the last few years.

I do not see the Ready To Be Free even with the kids bears promoted either. This was a Bible Study on a CD you could give a friend.

What was the objective topic started by Cotton Mather here again?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

This was back when there were fewer automated stations. No Internet, No iPod, no XP.

This particular station later changed to Talk Format and was one of the first to do so.

I am not sure if Harvestime is the best argument for now, but then it was the best preaching heard.

Same arguments used then are being used pro and con for Advertising on TV.

Harvestime could be a greater "force" for good. The problems with the UPCI is they are slow to change. Look how long the Harald was outdated. Same with our tracts. It's not about money....if we stopped fighting and unify in faith God will take care of that.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

I think the overall cost of the HMD adverts for Pentecost Sunday in USA Today/Time and a Canadian magazine became too great. It seemed to move to a local advertising where the local church sent out flyers. I have not seen it even promoted much at all the last few years.

I do not see the Ready To Be Free even with the kids bears promoted either. This was a Bible Study on a CD you could give a friend.

What was the objective topic started by Cotton Mather here again?

Ready To Be Free is dead dead dead. That would have been another GREAT tool. They have not made one change to the website in years. I emailed them and got no reply. I'd like to see "Ready To Be Free" TV...the content can be changed weekly or monthly. Every church can maybe subscribe to it to brand it and put it on their own website. Have more tracts and do more city by city crusades.

The CD idea was ok, but I think an active content website is better and tracks is cheaper. I was seriously disappointed in how it ended up.

We want to do a lot more here through the website. We figure we can brand our domain name on everything from tracts to business cards to fliers. People can go there to learn more of the truth and see testimonies. Our biggest obstacle is pointing people to it.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Ready To Be Free is dead dead dead. That would have been another GREAT tool. They have not made one change to the website in years. I emailed them and got no reply. I'd like to see "Ready To Be Free" TV...the content can be changed weekly or monthly. Every church can maybe subscribe to it to brand it and put it on their own website. Have more tracts and do more city by city crusades.

The CD idea was ok, but I think an active content website is better and tracks is cheaper. I was seriously disappointed in how it ended up.

We want to do a lot more here through the website. We figure we can brand our domain name on everything from tracts to business cards to fliers. People can go there to learn more of the truth and see testimonies. Our biggest obstacle is pointing people to it.

Hey Prax,

The "ready to be free" program died when Brother Doug Joseph left headquarters. That program was brilliantly done. Too bad they didn't keep it up.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hey Prax,

The "ready to be free" program died when Brother Doug Joseph left headquarters. That program was brilliantly done. Too bad they didn't keep it up.

I'd like to see someone else take it over maybe...or even become a private endeaver...is he still UPC? I noticed the website is still under HMD...someone must be paying for the bandwidth involved....