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Old 11-14-2007, 02:12 PM
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uhhhhh.....k.....lol...it was a joke dude...comparing the no conf vote to the arm crossing in tampa...gee whiz...guess ill have to tread carefully here...it was just a joke....my bad....lol...
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:28 PM
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lol...ur welcome

u must be stressed cause u used an explanation mark after the last word...believe me...i feel ya....why cant everybody just be nice and stay on their side of the room huh? u know...i never liked anyone picking on anyone either...so hows the weather where ur at...its a bit windy here..cold front coming throun monday i believe....u should go skiing in Aspen if u get the chance...very soothing and the powders great...i of course am lame at it but i like to do other stuff instead...nyways...just a recommendation....
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:31 PM
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lol...thad i was making a joke bout the oral thing and the whole drama at tampa thats all...just kidding fella...n u need to get busy on that cd you know seriously...but nyways back to the topic...well personally i dont know..it seems as though there has been a lot of scandal with the aog group..honestly though, im not knocking them or anything im just saying....that would be my thought on your topic starter here....
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:38 PM
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TULSA, Okla. - Embattled Oral Roberts University president Richard Roberts, facing accusations he misspent university funds to support a lavish lifestyle, has received a vote of no confidence by the tenured faculty at the evangelical university.

The resolution was approved by faculty Monday and obtained late Tuesday by The Associated Press. Faculty plan to distribute the nonbinding document to the school's Board of Regents and the faculty assembly at an upcoming meeting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071114/...erts_scandal_6
When you do bad things bad things follow.

Now that is reaping what you sow.

If they preach sow a see and God will give you 100 fold in return.

Then we need to preach right back at them for a 100 fold bounty for what they have sown....
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:52 AM
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i agree neckstar....one reaps what one sows
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:59 AM
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**** Arguement Breaks out at Meeting With ORAL ROBERTS! ****
Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts asked for a second chance in front of faculty members who days earlier cast a "no confidence" vote against him.

Televangelist Oral Roberts, who recently returned from semiretirement in California to the 5,700-student school he founded, called the emergency meeting Wednesday afternoon with tenured faculty members, sources told The Associated Press.

Richard Roberts told faculty members that he did not want to be president of the university forever but that if he would step down now, the public would think he was admitting to wrongdoing, said Donald Vance, a professor of biblical languages and literature who attended the meeting.

Richard Roberts has been on temporary leave, fighting accusations that he misspent university funds to bankroll a lavish lifestyle.

Toward the end of the hours-long meeting, sources told the AP, Oral Roberts asked the faculty who were willing to forgive and start fresh to stand up.

When a few faculty members wouldn't stand, Oral Roberts asked one of them, " 'Are you not ready to start over?' " Vance said.

"The faculty member said, "I don't know what that means -- to start over," Vance recalled.

Oral Roberts responded, " 'I would think that would be obvious.' "

After that, Vance said, the professor stood up and said, " 'No, Chancellor Roberts, it's not clear. Are you asking us to rescind our three motions?' "

Vance said Oral Roberts dropped the matter and asked the faculty to sit down.

An ORU spokesman declined to comment on the meeting late Wednesday.

The "no confidence" resolution, passed Monday, stated that faculty approved the motion "without regard to the outcome of the current lawsuit against the university."

The faculty passed two other motions: a vote of "confidence" in Mark Lewandowski, the school's executive vice president for academic affairs and provost, "with regard to his call for greater faculty governance and transparency of university finances" and the desire of the faculty to have a greater role on how university leadership is selected.

Accusations of lavish spending by Richard Roberts and his family are detailed in a wrongful termination lawsuit filed Oct. 2 by three former ORU professors.

Richard Roberts and his wife, Lindsay Roberts, have denied wrongdoing, and Richard Roberts has said the lawsuit amounts to "intimidation, blackmail and extortion."



A court challenge



Also on Wednesday, ORU and four administrators sued by the former professors asked the court to either throw out three subpoenas that the professors delivered last week or review the documents that the subpoenas re quest and then give any documents relevant to the case to the professors.

ORU and the administrators also want the court to ban the professors from publicly disseminating any documents uncovered by the subpoenas, the court filing says.

The professors asked for documents that might substantiate the report that they claim lost them their jobs.

ORU and the administrators also want the court to ban the professors from seeking further information about "the irrelevant allegations of wrongdoing" by ORU and the administrators.

The professors "are using the guise of this lawsuit to attempt to uncover information in hopes to further their public smear campaign against" ORU and the administrators, the court filing says.



ORU accreditation




Meanwhile, ORU's liaison at a regional accrediting corporation said a recommendation by peer reviewers for a follow-up accreditation visit to ORU in two years is not precedent-setting.

Follow-up visits and reports for reaccreditation usually are due within two to three years, said John Taylor, the director of the Higher Learning Commission's Program to Evaluate and Advance Quality.

The review of ORU's leadership, governance and finances would not, by itself, determine whether ORU keeps its accreditation, he said.

Peer reviewers who visited ORU last week recommended that the school be reaccredited through 2012-13, beyond the two-year mark, he said.

"When the team goes back in, it will look to find progress," Taylor said. He declined to explain how the reviewers want ORU to improve its leadership, governance and finances -- areas brought into question by the wrongful-termination lawsuit.

Beyond the plaintiffs' claim that they lost their jobs for handing over the report to regents, the lawsuit alleges that the ORU and Oral Roberts Ministries boards were negligent in overseeing the university and its administrators.




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**** Arguement Breaks out at Meeting With ORAL ROBERTS! ****
Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts asked for a second chance in front of faculty members who days earlier cast a "no confidence" vote against him.

Televangelist Oral Roberts, who recently returned from semiretirement in California to the 5,700-student school he founded, called the emergency meeting Wednesday afternoon with tenured faculty members, sources told The Associated Press.

Richard Roberts told faculty members that he did not want to be president of the university forever but that if he would step down now, the public would think he was admitting to wrongdoing, said Donald Vance, a professor of biblical languages and literature who attended the meeting.

Richard Roberts has been on temporary leave, fighting accusations that he misspent university funds to bankroll a lavish lifestyle.

Toward the end of the hours-long meeting, sources told the AP, Oral Roberts asked the faculty who were willing to forgive and start fresh to stand up.

When a few faculty members wouldn't stand, Oral Roberts asked one of them, " 'Are you not ready to start over?' " Vance said.

"The faculty member said, "I don't know what that means -- to start over," Vance recalled.

Oral Roberts responded, " 'I would think that would be obvious.' "

After that, Vance said, the professor stood up and said, " 'No, Chancellor Roberts, it's not clear. Are you asking us to rescind our three motions?' "

Vance said Oral Roberts dropped the matter and asked the faculty to sit down.

An ORU spokesman declined to comment on the meeting late Wednesday.

The "no confidence" resolution, passed Monday, stated that faculty approved the motion "without regard to the outcome of the current lawsuit against the university."

The faculty passed two other motions: a vote of "confidence" in Mark Lewandowski, the school's executive vice president for academic affairs and provost, "with regard to his call for greater faculty governance and transparency of university finances" and the desire of the faculty to have a greater role on how university leadership is selected.

Accusations of lavish spending by Richard Roberts and his family are detailed in a wrongful termination lawsuit filed Oct. 2 by three former ORU professors.

Richard Roberts and his wife, Lindsay Roberts, have denied wrongdoing, and Richard Roberts has said the lawsuit amounts to "intimidation, blackmail and extortion."



http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/artic..._A1_spanc54174
Thad,

You can't believe everything you hear and read...especially in the Tulsa World. They have continued to spread misinformation and have a very liberal bias.

Dr Vance was interviewed on the radio live this morning (KFAQ Talk Radio--Tulsa 1170 am) and he said very forcefully that the Tulsa World NEVER talked to him and they have got this story WRONG. He said that a local AP reporter called him and asked him about the meeting. He said that it was tense at times but there was a lot of freedom to express opinions. He also said that Oral Roberts DID NOT ask the profs to reconsider their vote. That it was confusing at first but was clarified that the rising vote was simply a vote to forgive and be willing to start fresh....with or without Richard...they then stood again in affirmation of this.

It is also interesting to note that the reporter confirmed to Dr. Vance that the Tulsa world NEVER contacted him to get the story straight either! Bottom line, they did what they do best...propagate half truths and outright lies to further their bent....they never even attempted to get this story right...sounds like some folks I know....

Vance also said that there was absolutely NO argument, simply open dialog that was tense at times due to the nature of the meeting and the "new openness to speak their mind" among them,...and that the meeting was VERY HEALTHY!

Just thought I'd try to correct the misinformation left by our city's less than stellar news paper
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.

I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:02 PM
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I'm only posting what YOUR local News is putting out there.
you are saying there is NO Scandal going on?? That RR is not in trouble?
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:09 PM
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I'm only posting what YOUR local News is putting out there.
you are saying there is NO Scandal going on?? That RR is not in trouble?
No I am not saying that...

What I am saying is that the quoted professor was on one of our talk stations this morning upsert over the fact that the Tulsa World published this story and in his words, "They got it wrong and they didn't even try to get it right."

The story in the world is not anything near what actually happened...this coming from a professor that has been interviewed on the radio at least twice this week and he is NOT in Richards corner....he is on record as saying he doesn't support him at this time!

The fact remains that if you are reporting what our paper reported...you are propagating a lie...I listened to the whole interview this morning LIVE AND UNEDITED...and Dr. Vance was not pleased wirth the Tulsa Worlds lies...

Just because my local news put it out there doesn;t make it right for YOU to tell the same lie Bro.....a lie is a lie and I thought it might do you good to know what was really going on...

But of coarse.....you don't usually care about the truth now do ya?
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I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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I read an article today that Said Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar and Kenneth Copeland were all on the Board of Regents at ORU...Seems like all three are being investigated... and somewhat tied in with ORU...
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