How young, and how do you teach standards???

[Whole Hearted]

My son is 18 and my daughter 13 and they have always keep the standards.

My son has always dress modest and has never taken part in org. sports of any kind. He wears long sleeves all year long. Keeps his hair cut nice and clean shaven.

My daughter has never had on pants of any kind, neither has her mother, this includes PJ's. She wears her skirts at least 3 inches below her knees and 3/4 to long sleeves. She has never played any kind of sports. She is every bit a lady.

We have raised our kids to give them self total to the Lord.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

If people have such faith in their "personal" convictions... why don't they allow God to give people convictions directly... rather than layer years and years and generations and generations of "personal" convictions on the young who, frankly, already have enough to worry about without all the extra baggage...

Exactly. None of this "Oh, she BACKSLID!! She cut her HAIR!!!" and then pretending that the people listening has a revelation from *God* about not cutting their hair.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Oh, I should add... I used the "personal convictions" logic because whenever you disprove a so-called biblical standard, then people start claiming that God sent them some divine revelation without any (rolling eyes) outside influence... (when they get threatened on one argument, they switch to the other...)

Why not focus on the fact that the Bible says long and then let people figure it out. After all, it doesn't say uncut.

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

You lead and train in holiness and the road will be much easier, and you start as soon as they can understand. We start training/teaching respect to a baby when they are months old "no", "don't touch" ect why not the things of God just as soon.

I have 3 teens, 2 G 1 B, my girls have never worn pants and if its something that will not allow modesty in a skirt then they simply don't do it and they have no problems with it. They are not deprived in any way and in fact all 3 excell in school.

I don't compromise and neither do they.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Chosen

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

You lead and train in holiness and the road will be much easier, and you start as soon as they can understand. We start training/teaching respect to a baby when they are months old "no", "don't touch" ect why not the things of God just as soon.

I have 3 teens, 2 G 1 B, my girls have never worn pants and if its something that will not allow modesty in a skirt then they simply don't do it and they have no problems with it. They are not deprived in any way and in fact all 3 excell in school.

I don't compromise and neither do they.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

My son is 18 and my daughter 13 and they have always keep the standards.

My son has always dress modest and has never taken part in org. sports of any kind. He wears long sleeves all year long. Keeps his hair cut nice and clean shaven.

My daughter has never had on pants of any kind, neither has her mother, this includes PJ's. She wears her skirts at least 3 inches below her knees and 3/4 to long sleeves. She has never played any kind of sports. She is every bit a lady.

We have raised our kids to give them self total to the Lord.

Well, every man got to guide his own house.

Would it be ok for your boy to wear shorts three inches below his knee since his sister can wear a skirt as such?

[MissBrattified]

I believe that parents should teach their children whatever they believe, according to scripture. And that includes personal convictions. If children want to do something different when they get older, that is their choice, obviously. I can't imagine going through life not sharing beliefs and convictions from God's Word with them. In my opinion, that is part of my responsibility as a parent.

Now, as for standards that the church teaches, that perhaps we don't share, but obey...we tell them the truth according to scripture: Obey them that have the rule over you. Perfect scriptural principle that applies to whatever assembly they will attend.

The beliefs that Jeff and I hold, we have been sharing with our kids since they were old enough to understand. That includes doctrine, salvation, modesty, righteousness, morality, good character, to name a few.

Children should be taught truths from scripture from the time they are small until....

Again, one of the truths from scripture that we teach our children is how to submit to authority. Whether that is God's authority, family authority, church authorities, or secular authorities.

Teaching should be in both word and deed.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I was thinking about the subject of "How young" and it occurred to me to follow the excellent advice of a certain holiness author.
When talking to your kids just MAKE STUFF UP! Tell your little girls that "Your long hair keeps the devils away!" and your little boys that... that.... well, "You SISTERS long hair keeps the devil away!" -since there isn't as much to focus on with little boys.

What "holiness author" would that be?

[pastorj]

Originally Posted by Pragmatist

My question is how young do you teach them why standards are unnecessary?

I can envision my child arguing with the Sunday School teacher if they are addressed.

Why would you ever tell them that standards are unnecessary? Can you possibly explain why they aren't? I understand that different churches have different standards, but I have found NO scripture that excuses us to do whatever we wish if we plan to please God.

As far as needing 'x' scripture to know about doing 'y'... I think anyone who is mature should understand the concept that there are 'lines' and then there are 'precepts'... and BOTH are part of God's plan.

[pastorj]

Originally Posted by Chosen

Proverbs 22:6
Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

You lead and train in holiness and the road will be much easier, and you start as soon as they can understand. We start training/teaching respect to a baby when they are months old "no", "don't touch" ect why not the things of God just as soon.

I have 3 teens, 2 G 1 B, my girls have never worn pants and if its something that will not allow modesty in a skirt then they simply don't do it and they have no problems with it. They are not deprived in any way and in fact all 3 excell in school.

I don't compromise and neither do they.

AMEN!