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Old 10-26-2007, 08:47 PM
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Without ALL of the info, all I see is that a DS did what was well within his authority to do. We have no info one way or the other about the newly independent minister.


To be honest, I thought this had been the case for years. In order for a preacher to go into another area and preach for a church that is non- UPC, he must first get the approval of the local UPC pastor and the DS. At least that is what I thought was the case.
I agree that this type of action is not new ... but as reported ... it appears that the DS was invigorated to take action .... by using newly passed Resolution 3 as his crutch when explaining his decision to the pastor.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:49 PM
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[QUOTE=Sam;282683]16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
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How many of the above verses could be applied to the attitude and actions of those who judge, malign, shun and disfellowship fellow members of the Body of Christ and who tell ministers where they may or may not minister?

Exactly, Sam. .......God must be so upset with people now. As the world looks on, the church bickers and divides.
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Is the DS required to notify the church/preacher they are "in questioned" status?
I don't think so ... especially if said pastor/minister is no longer affiliated .... however .... is a list being compiled .... by the district board .... as to who is "unfellowshipable"?? What criteria was used to place this pastor under question? One would imagine the newly defined parameters in Res. 3 were used.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:52 PM
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... In order for a preacher to go into another area and preach for a church that is non- UPC, he must first get the approval of the local UPC pastor and the DS.....
True.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:53 PM
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Who is the superintendent? His name has slipped my mind...seems they recently changed...JC was during the Borat scene.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:55 PM
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Who is the superintendent? His name has slipped my mind...seems they recently changed...JC was during the Borat scene.
Sure it was JC and not GRT? Time gets away from me sometimes. You are right about the change. JC is out and JS is in.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:56 PM
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True.
The DS ... could have simply said no ... and told the pastor that was his decision ... but again it appears he felt justified by Res. 3 and reportedly used it in explaining his decision to the pastor.

Also, common courtesy dictates that this is not done a day before the crusade.

As Praxeas ... said this is a control freak's dream resolution ... especially by defining under question so broadly.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:01 PM
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Further fragmentation will occur in the future.

Very few men want this type of control exerted.
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:02 PM
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Actually Daniel, If I was the UPC pastor in that area, I would not be real happy that a UPC man is coming to anther NON UPC church in my city, and in many ways working against my local assembly.

So my question first would be WHY is the EVANGELIST not going to the local UPC church instead??
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Old 10-26-2007, 09:03 PM
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Sure it was JC and not GRT? Time gets away from me sometimes. You are right about the change. JC is out and JS is in.
GRT's been out for a while
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