Withdraw Bible College from UPC

aren't these non-accredited colleges? Doesn't that kinda make them pretend colleges?

Isn't this like asking if my imaginary friend is in a fight with you if I'm in a fight with you?

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

aren't these non-accredited colleges? Doesn't that kinda make them pretend colleges?

Isn't this like asking if my imaginary friend is in a fight with you if I'm in a fight with you?

RC, you may not know but there are secular colleges that are also not accredited, and never intend to be. Why? Because they refuse to be regulated by the government or some independent liberal body. But, many them have degrees that are more readily accepted by companies and schools that know them than those from other accredited schools.

Some schools are set up to serve a particular industry or segment of society, and those who are in that industry or segment need nothing but the schools reputation, faculty and staff listings, etc., to determine that they receive that school with honor.

Such is the case of our Bible Colleges. They are received of the fellowship with as great an honor, or greater honor, than another accredited school.

BTW, UGST was founded with a desire to eventually be accredited, thus making it easier to afterwards accredit our undergraduate schools. You first must have unaccredited doctorates before accredited doctorates. Then you get accredited bachelor's where they were unaccredited before. Almost every movement has gone through this cycle. It takes years. We are about 2/3 of the way through that cycle.

Oh, BTW. Almost every movement that has sprung up has lost its originality of doctrine, focus and passion when it does get all the way through the cycle. It tends to become more blended with the other denominations. Or, we could just say they become more mainstream, whichever sounds more appealing.

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

RC, you may not know but there are secular colleges that are also not accredited, and never intend to be. Why? Because they refuse to be regulated by the government or some independent liberal body. But, many them have degrees that are more readily accepted by companies and schools that know them than those from other accredited schools.

Some schools are set up to serve a particular industry or segment of society, and those who are in that industry or segment need nothing but the schools reputation, faculty and staff listings, etc., to determine that they receive that school with honor.

Such is the case of our Bible Colleges. They are received of the fellowship with as great an honor, or greater honor, than another accredited school.

BTW, UGST was founded with a desire to eventually be accredited, thus making it easier to afterwards accredit our undergraduate schools. You first must have unaccredited doctorates before accredited doctorates. Then you get accredited bachelor's where they were unaccredited before. Almost every movement has gone through this cycle. It takes years. We are about 2/3 of the way through that cycle.

Oh, BTW. Almost every movement that has sprung up has lost its originality of doctrine, focus and passion when it does get all the way through the cycle. It tends to become more blended with the other denominations. Or, we could just say they become more mainstream, whichever sounds more appealing.

????

[chseeads]

Urshan Graduate School of Theology....is that what you're asking?

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by chseeads

Urshan Graduate School of Theology....is that what you're asking?

Yes.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

RC, you may not know but there are secular colleges that are also not accredited, and never intend to be. Why? Because they refuse to be regulated by the government or some independent liberal body. But, many them have degrees that are more readily accepted by companies and schools that know them than those from other accredited schools.

Some schools are set up to serve a particular industry or segment of society, and those who are in that industry or segment need nothing but the schools reputation, faculty and staff listings, etc., to determine that they receive that school with honor.

Such is the case of our Bible Colleges. They are received of the fellowship with as great an honor, or greater honor, than another accredited school.

BTW, UGST was founded with a desire to eventually be accredited, thus making it easier to afterwards accredit our undergraduate schools. You first must have unaccredited doctorates before accredited doctorates. Then you get accredited bachelor's where they were unaccredited before. Almost every movement has gone through this cycle. It takes years. We are about 2/3 of the way through that cycle.

Oh, BTW. Almost every movement that has sprung up has lost its originality of doctrine, focus and passion when it does get all the way through the cycle. It tends to become more blended with the other denominations. Or, we could just say they become more mainstream, whichever sounds more appealing.

Yeah, I am fully aware of all that as someone who is seriously considering a Bible college of some sort as a transfer destination...

I was just being difficult and thought hte "imaginary friend" line was humorous...

[Sweet Pea]

Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

Someone like a Nathaniel Wilson who's Bible School is tied into his chrch, could pull out his Bible School...

But no one could pull out CLC, IBC, TBC, Gateway.....

Don't know about the others - but CLC is not owned or financially supported in any way by the Western District or Headquarters. It is owned and supported totally by Christian Life Center. I don't see my pastor pulling out over Res 4 - but IF he did, the college would go with him, I feel quite confident.

[chseeads]

I thought IBC was operated by Calvary Tabernacle too.... *shrug*

[True Believer]

Originally Posted by Brett Prince

RC, you may not know but there are secular colleges that are also not accredited, and never intend to be. Why? Because they refuse to be regulated by the government or some independent liberal body. But, many them have degrees that are more readily accepted by companies and schools that know them than those from other accredited schools.

Some schools are set up to serve a particular industry or segment of society, and those who are in that industry or segment need nothing but the schools reputation, faculty and staff listings, etc., to determine that they receive that school with honor.

Such is the case of our Bible Colleges. They are received of the fellowship with as great an honor, or greater honor, than another accredited school.

BTW, UGST was founded with a desire to eventually be accredited, thus making it easier to afterwards accredit our undergraduate schools. You first must have unaccredited doctorates before accredited doctorates. Then you get accredited bachelor's where they were unaccredited before. Almost every movement has gone through this cycle. It takes years. We are about 2/3 of the way through that cycle.

Oh, BTW. Almost every movement that has sprung up has lost its originality of doctrine, focus and passion when it does get all the way through the cycle. It tends to become more blended with the other denominations. Or, we could just say they become more mainstream, whichever sounds more appealing.

How can UGST being accredited help the other schools? They are all independent of each other.

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It would be extremely difficult to pull them out. In the case of Gateway, which is owned and controled by the Missouri District of the UPCI you would have to have a situation where the majority of churches in the MO district wanted to pull the whole district out. Then they could go whatever direction they pleased.

Ummmmmm.... not by what i've been told.... I recall that the Missouri District transferred ownership and all financial responsibility in it's entirety to the new Gateway Foundation (which is a seperate entity from the UPC)....