I know of one DS who has told a man that said he is leaving the UPC that as soon as he does, the UPC of that district will be sending the finest candidate they can find to start a church in that community.
I know of one DS who has told a man that said he is leaving the UPC that as soon as he does, the UPC of that district will be sending the finest candidate they can find to start a church in that community.
I also have to think that maybe this isn't all bad. There are areas of our country that I know many saints that have left the UPC for some reason. Either they got hurt from a UPC church or they think it is too legalistic. The UPC churches are 70 miles apart so if you have some issues with them there are no other churches to go to. I am not talking about church hopping. But if you have a legitamit reason to stop going to a certain church than you are left high and dry unless you move! Like we did. I see potential for the non-UPC pastors to go into these areas and start churches.
I know of one DS who has told a man that said he is leaving the UPC that as soon as he does, the UPC of that district will be sending the finest candidate they can find to start a church in that community.
Talk about THREATS! Surely this is more rumor. If a DS actually said that, I find it SAD! Just because a man leaves the UPC does not mean one should intentionally "move in" for spite. If the man is still preaching truth, leave him alone.
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Talk about THREATS! Surely this is more rumor. If a DS actually said that, I find it SAD! Just because a man leaves the UPC does not mean one should intentionally "move in" for spite. If the man is still preaching truth, leave him alone.
What if there are saints in that church that don't want to leave the UPC and have no UPC church to switch to if he pulls out?
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You know what is really sad? That the great men of God that are leaving or say they are leaving or let such controversies divide us, don't wake up and say "an enemy hath done this". We COULD have unity. We COULD have a resolution that would work for everyone if everyone was willing. But everyone has their agenda.
Resolution #3 is just absurd...who in the world came up with it and who in the world voted on it? Can the licensed ministers of the UPC really be trusted to running this org?
Res #4...Im fine with allowing churches if they want to to use this medium as we use others. I don't see why though we can't oppose worldly TV shows just as we might oppose worldly content on the net and not say "you can't have a TV or else" as we don't say the same with Internet. Whether we decriminalize TV or not is irrelevant. We should always be preaching and standing against sin. TV is just a box of electronics. It is NOT sin. We've made a big mistake when we made having a TV sin or just looking at one that is turned on a sin and not rather attack the real sin....the actual programming. We look backward and in fact we ARE backward when we knee jerk say all of it is sin when it is NOT all about sin just as the Internet is NOT all about sin.
I think we could have unity and not contended for our own personal differences. But the Devil does not want that. He wants disunity, fighting and discord and that is what he got....and UCs, Mods and Libs were all his gullible marks.
Divide Divide Divide...that's how war works. Divide and conquor. I wonder if that was how the first century church ended up being marginalized and virtually obliterated from history.....
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Have the resolutions been posted somewhere, with the vote results?
I believe the GC part of the UPCI site lists the resolution numbers and if they passed or failed but does not have actual percentages. At least not the last time I looked which was the day of the voting.
Talk about THREATS! Surely this is more rumor. If a DS actually said that, I find it SAD! Just because a man leaves the UPC does not mean one should intentionally "move in" for spite. If the man is still preaching truth, leave him alone.
Amen brother!
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You know what is really sad? That the great men of God that are leaving or say they are leaving or let such controversies divide us, don't wake up and say "an enemy hath done this". We COULD have unity. We COULD have a resolution that would work for everyone if everyone was willing. But everyone has their agenda.
Resolution #3 is just absurd...who in the world came up with it and who in the world voted on it? Can the licensed ministers of the UPC really be trusted to running this org?
Res #4...Im fine with allowing churches if they want to to use this medium as we use others. I don't see why though we can't oppose worldly TV shows just as we might oppose worldly content on the net and not say "you can't have a TV or else" as we don't say the same with Internet. Whether we decriminalize TV or not is irrelevant. We should always be preaching and standing against sin. TV is just a box of electronics. It is NOT sin. We've made a big mistake when we made having a TV sin or just looking at one that is turned on a sin and not rather attack the real sin....the actual programming. We look backward and in fact we ARE backward when we knee jerk say all of it is sin when it is NOT all about sin just as the Internet is NOT all about sin.
I think we could have unity and not contended for our own personal differences. But the Devil does not want that. He wants disunity, fighting and discord and that is what he got....and UCs, Mods and Libs were all his gullible marks.
Divide Divide Divide...that's how war works. Divide and conquor. I wonder if that was how the first century church ended up being marginalized and virtually obliterated from history.....
You are so right Praxeas!
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