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View Poll Results: Will an exit if UCs from the UPC make it more appealing to sinners and ex-UPCers?
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10-01-2007, 10:48 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Originally Posted by CC1
Time will tell. It should definitely make it more unified than in recent years.
If the conservatives and my prediction comes true and this is the beginning of the UPC moving away from the leglaism I believe a UPC church strong on Acts 2:38 but moving away from the extrabiblical legalism could experience a true revival and see a lot of people baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Spirit.
As it stands now most UPCers are either born into it or from such desperate gross sin that the extra biblical leglaism is either something they have been around all their life or they come from lives so unstructured they welcome the over correction as a safety net that is a visible guage of their change and standing with God. Doesn't even require you to think! |
Man, I hate it when I (as an ultracon) agree with a flaming liberal! 
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10-01-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Looks like I should clarify my answer.
I think many hardliners appear unfriendly because of their radical stances on issues.
The idea that someone is going to toast in hell because of sleeve length, viewing moving pictures, or their nonconformity to precise dress code and hairstyle is not only unfriendly and appalling to those outside the UPC - many on the inside are also disgusted with it.
Whether these attitudes will be shed from the UPC anytime soon is anyones guess.
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Excellent post. Right on the sleeve....er...money.
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10-01-2007, 11:03 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Originally Posted by CC1
Excellent post. Right on the sleeve....er...money.
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That's Sleeven Hoover for ya...er I mean Stephan Hoover 
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10-01-2007, 11:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Looks like I should clarify my answer.
I think many hardliners appear unfriendly because of their radical stances on issues.
The idea that someone is going to toast in hell because of sleeve length, viewing moving pictures, or their nonconformity to precise dress code and hairstyle is not only unfriendly and appalling to those outside the UPC - many on the inside are also disgusted with it.
Whether these attitudes will be shed from the UPC anytime soon is anyones guess.
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10-01-2007, 11:17 PM
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Saved & Shaved
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Por favor.
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10-02-2007, 12:03 AM
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crakjak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Looks like I should clarify my answer.
I think many hardliners appear unfriendly because of their radical stances on issues.
The idea that someone is going to toast in hell because of sleeve length, viewing moving pictures, or their nonconformity to precise dress code and hairstyle is not only unfriendly and appalling to those outside the UPC - many on the inside are also disgusted with it.
Whether these attitudes will be shed from the UPC anytime soon is anyones guess.
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I, of course agree with you. Well said.
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10-02-2007, 12:05 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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[QUOTE=CC1;259720]Time will tell. It should definitely make it more unified than in recent years.
If the conservatives and my prediction comes true and this is the beginning of the UPC moving away from the leglaism I believe a UPC church strong on Acts 2:38 but moving away from the extrabiblical legalism could experience a true revival and see a lot of people baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Spirit.
As it stands now most UPCers are either born into it or from such desperate gross sin that the extra biblical leglaism is either something they have been around all their life or they come from lives so unstructured they welcome the over correction as a safety net that is a visible guage of their change and standing with God. Doesn't even require you to think![/QUOTE]
My, my, my...this would have to be the most insightful post to date on AFF.
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10-02-2007, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Man, I hate it when I (as an ultracon) agree with a flaming liberal! |
SH,
I just lost all my confidence in you!
CC1... the Spielberg of Apostolicism, promotes Sci-Fi of Pentecost and Stephen Hoover is his biggest fan! You paint every conservative believer as some kind of mind numbed robot who is afraid of reality and every conservative pastor as the leader of some borg. You have watched way too much Star Wars.
CC1,
Your rhetoric is worn and tired. Get a new spin on your old garbage if you want it to be paid attention to as having even a modicum of believability!
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10-02-2007, 07:59 AM
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[QUOTE=chosenbyone;259924]
Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1
Time will tell. It should definitely make it more unified than in recent years.
If the conservatives and my prediction comes true and this is the beginning of the UPC moving away from the leglaism I believe a UPC church strong on Acts 2:38 but moving away from the extrabiblical legalism could experience a true revival and see a lot of people baptized in Jesus Name and filled with the Holy Spirit.
As it stands now most UPCers are either born into it or from such desperate gross sin that the extra biblical leglaism is either something they have been around all their life or they come from lives so unstructured they welcome the over correction as a safety net that is a visible guage of their change and standing with God. Doesn't even require you to think![/QUOTE]
My, my, my...this would have to be the most insightful post to date on AFF. |
I just realized I am in the midst of a bunch of deluded and brain washed folks.
That is one of the most judgmental (not insightful) posts ever made on AFF. You and others like you amaze me. God is not pleased with your judgment of others motives or thoughts or behaviors. You all need to repent of your judmentalism and elitism and prejudice!
That this libelous rhetoric is not only tolerated but embraced is beyond my comprehension!
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10-02-2007, 08:04 AM
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As to the topic of the thread, I do believe that as the UPC continues its shift to the left that some who have left will return. I don't think there will be any astronomical growth as a result nor do I think there will be some massive revival because the cons are gone. The same lazy liberals and moderates will be sitting next to the empty seats where the lazy cons used to sit and no one will be doing anything more than they already do to win the lost.
Do you honestly believe that the conservatives leaving the UPCI is going to cause some great upheaval in the hearts of the Libs and the Mods resulting a sudden desire to go win the lost now that the cons are gone?
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