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09-29-2007, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
Holiness standards?! Realizing that holiness is a heart issue, anyone Spirit filled will never "do away" with holiness standards. 
I know what you are asking, girl, and I apologize for taking that turn with it. It's just that I hate to the very bone the notion we have set that how I look is my holiness standard.
Okay...off my soapbox...re your honest question, I don't know, sis. Do you really think it will one day come to this?! |
I think more than likely, IF it happens, it will be because the cons leave, if they leave, because then those who are more progressive may get more progressive yet. Ultimately it will depend upon unity or disunity, I suspect.
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09-29-2007, 07:00 PM
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I don't know T1. I think the approval of Res. #4 is a symptom of a shift in power. Those who disdain the standards or teach them as nefarious traditions ONLY have ascended to stronger position of influence. In my OPINION this faction WILL try to take other former positions of the UPCI toward a significantly more liberal position.
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I don't think so. Men like AM are not as interested in losing the "holiness" identity as many are propagating...
KH and AM do still believe in the dress distinctions and always will along with many many others...
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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09-29-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ILG
I think more than likely, IF it happens, it will be because the cons leave, if they leave, because then those who are more progressive may get more progressive yet. Ultimately it will depend upon unity or disunity, I suspect.
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AM is traditional UPC to the core...and he has strong influence...
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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09-29-2007, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
AM is traditional UPC to the core...and he has strong influence...
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The point being??
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09-29-2007, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
I don't think so. Men like AM are not as interested in losing the "holiness" identity as many are propagating...
KH and AM do still believe in the dress distinctions and always will along with many many others...
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I agree with your assessment of these fine men. However, they are not the masses. I believe there will be a combination of events that will lead more and more men to tolerate and then embrace a more liberal view of separation. In my view, many are not far from there now.
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09-29-2007, 07:04 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Barb
Holiness standards?! Realizing that holiness is a heart issue, anyone Spirit filled will never "do away" with holiness standards.
I know what you are asking, girl, and I apologize for taking that turn with it. It's just that I hate to the very bone the notion we have set that how I look is my holiness standard.
Okay...off my soapbox...re your honest question, I don't know, sis. Do you really think it will one day come to this?! |
Sister, unfortunately how you look is considered your holiness standard.
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09-29-2007, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by philjones
I agree with your assessment of these fine men. However, they are not the masses. I believe there will be a combination of events that will lead more and more men to tolerate and then embrace a more liberal view of separation. In my view, many are not far from there now.
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I think internet is what is making that happen, more than anything, but if the UPC gets more liberal in that way, TV advertising will probably be blamed anyway..because the argument is more convenient. Cons should have opposed internet long ago. Somehow the internet just slipped on by...
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09-29-2007, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
Sister, unfortunately how you look is considered your holiness standard.
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Yes, that is true. That's why I'm considered backslid.:sshhh
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09-29-2007, 07:05 PM
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She makes me look good!
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Originally Posted by ILG
The point being??
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My point is that there are highly influencial men on the pro-tv side that will keep the UPC from going TBN in dress, lifestyle, and doctrine....you guys watch, the allowance for tv will have no more of an impact than allowing radion and the internet...
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I DIDN'T HAVE A HAIR CUTTING PARTY!
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.
I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?
Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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09-29-2007, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by triumphant1
My point is that there are highly influencial men on the pro-tv side that will keep the UPC from going TBN in dress, lifestyle, and doctrine....you guys watch, the allowance for tv will have no more of an impact than allowing radion and the internet...
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You could be right. If there are men to argue a difference, people will follow.
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