sometimes there is the mega church that seems to put pressure on smaller churches...and many pastors get discouraged that they do not have what mega churches offer...that even happens on the field...some missionaries have "benifts" to offer their followers while other do not.
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what do you mean by reaching the saturation point ?
competing for few resources ?
in some areas of California and Louisiana, Apostolic churches are very close to each other, and the resources are PEOPLE.
I know in some places, there is no real growth because there are 30 Apostolic churches all trying to win people from a very small pool.
you get rid of 25 of them and the 5 left would all be large dynamic churchs. as it is, you have 30 that cant win enough people to support a pastor hardly.
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sometimes there is the mega church that seems to put pressure on smaller churches...and many pastors get discouraged that they do not have what mega churches offer...that even happens on the field...some missionaries have "benifts" to offer their followers while other do not.
and on the flip, the Mega churches are under pressure to sustain their huge ministries or "empires " in some cases.
If you notice, a lot of marriages that are splitting up are happening from the mega ministries
I also think that there are some who are suffering the effects of being out of their calling. It takes a special calling to pastor - I know I do not speak from experience, in the regards - I have not pastored, but I have observed men of God who have pastored in difficult situations and have thrived, because that is what they were called to do. I have also observed men of God who pastored in situations and were not successful. In my opinion, I believe they were out of their calling. The pieces of the puzzle just did not fit correctly. There are many callings and gifts. Many people, when they feel the call, will try to pastor, because that is what is traditionally thought of as a result of a call. I would like to hear some who are more experienced than I speak to this.
a lot of truth in this. a pastor sometimes is the only really "recognized" calling. Evagelists have some place but a lot of times, they get USED and ABUSED.
A pastor living on 80k a year thinks nothing of paying an evangelist $500 bucks a week and thinking he has done a good job.
and lets not talk about a guy with a call on his life that really is a teacher just doesnt feel he should be a pastor.
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in some areas of California and Louisiana, Apostolic churches are very close to each other, and the resources are PEOPLE.
I know in some places, there is no real growth because there are 30 Apostolic churches all trying to win people from a very small pool.
you get rid of 25 of them and the 5 left would all be large dynamic churchs. as it is, you have 30 that cant win enough people to support a pastor hardly.
that might be one aspect of it Ferd but I'm talking about the stress of trying to maintain a ministry outside of problem of church hopping which has always been
Where to start.......hmmmm....well, I don't know if I could say many ministers are choosing to get out of ministry. However, I do know many who are choosing not to enter conventional traditional ministry opportunities.
I can't say as I blame them.
Why enter something with one hand tied behind your back by a rustic religious system?
Why enter traditional ministry when you know your family will suffer and sacrifice because parishoners expect it of ministry, but have no intention of sacrificing anything themselves?
Why enter traditional ministry when you are considered young at age forty, and have no voice?
Many men and women have counted the costs, and decided it's just not worth the time and effort. Instead, they choose to minister through house or internet churches. Or they involve themselves in a comfortable established megachurch in order to diminish the opportunity for failure.
that might be one aspect of it Ferd but I'm talking about the stress of trying to maintain a ministry outside of problem of church hopping which has always been
Why are people always to blame Thad??
If there is consistant church hopping the problem isn't always with Sheep??
But I am sure to be called on the carpet for this..I'm sure...
Where to start.......hmmmm....well, I don't know if I could say many ministers are choosing to get out of ministry. However, I do know many who are choosing not to enter conventional traditional ministry opportunities.
I can't say as I blame them.
Why enter something with one hand tied behind your back by a rustic religious system?
Why enter traditional ministry when you know your family will suffer and sacrifice because parishoners expect it of ministry, but have no intention of sacrificing anything themselves?
Why enter traditional ministry when you are considered young at age forty, and have no voice?
Many men and women have counted the costs, and decided it's just not worth the time and effort. Instead, they choose to minister through house or internet churches. Or they involve themselves in a comfortable established megachurch in order to diminish the opportunity for failure.
The problem I think lies in the Culture pentecost has created...
The truth is ..The Shout never lasts... the Yells & Screams of a Red-Faced preacher is only service oriented...
Unless people are taught the principles and not just the basics folks move on..
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