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I think the Hinn has deceived even himself
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The Hinn has mastered the art of human behavior and hypnotic phenomena
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The Hinn is not even a good magician - cheap
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Benny Hinn is an annointed man of God
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09-23-2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Well Hinn is making the inroads on multiple AFF threads, so I just gotta ask this.
Is there anyone here who does not think Benny Hinn is a sham and a scammer?
Not to question whether or not there are real Christians at his "crusades", but does anyone give what goes on in the name of "ministry" as anything greater than a circus or a magic show?
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You should have made this option to chose more than one. I pick 1&2, but I had to pick only one of those two.
There are plenty of men who are genuinely used of by God in the gifts, who spend hours in prayer and fasting..who have died to the world completely. They don't jet set across the globe in first class or private airplanes, or stay in $3000 a night suites or where expensive jewelry and Italian designer suits or smoking a hookah with his "ministry" buddies.
I don't know how many people for the first time genuinely come to faith in Christ in his meetings as it seems most of the visitors are from churches that heard Benny was gonna be in town and to bring the sick. However, from what I have seen little to no real healings take place, yet he has tons and tons and tons of money coming in.
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09-23-2007, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Thad
I don't believe he is trying to hynotize people or using the same methods of say a iwiccan or witch. you really believe he's going to be singing " how great thou art" and God is going to let him put people in a trance? he can't sing as it is come on !
I think many of these guys start out sincere and sucess can get to our heads too- we are human too.
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What does what song he sings have to do with it? You think just because he sings that song God is going to prevent him from doing something? Does God prevent Hip Hop artists from doing wrong when they claim to give glory to God for their success?
BTW I don't doubt any one starts out sincere. Benny Hinn is a student of the late Katheryn Kulman, but I believe he also has taken lessons from Kenneth Hagin as have many other TBN ministers.
If one wants to understand their theology and "faith" study Kenneth Hagin.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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09-23-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
What does what song he sings have to do with it? You think just because he sings that song God is going to prevent him from doing something? Does God prevent Hip Hop artists from doing wrong when they claim to give glory to God for their success?
BTW I don't doubt any one starts out sincere. Benny Hinn is a student of the late Katheryn Kulman, but I believe he also has taken lessons from Kenneth Hagin as have many other TBN ministers.
If one wants to understand their theology and "faith" study Kenneth Hagin.
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Good post, I agree that many of these people start out as sincere devout believers. Large amounts of money bring power, and too much power corrupts. I personally believe that Benny Hinn is in self-deception, and he had started to believe his own PR a long time ago. Anyone who is a true Bible believer would not for one moment even acknowledge Benny Hinn was anything more than an entertainer.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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09-23-2007, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Good post, I agree that many of these people start out as sincere devout believers. Large amounts of money bring power, and too much power corrupts. I personally believe that Benny Hinn is in self-deception, and he had started to believe his own PR a long time ago. Anyone who is a true Bible believer would not for one moment even acknowledge Benny Hinn was anything more than an entertainer.
In Jesus name
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Yes I do agree power corrupts even amongst oneness circles this can and has happend. we are not expempt from the evils that can come with wealth and sucess just because we are Jesus only .
I think the charismatics are crumbling partly because of this prosperity doctrine , not being accountable, the scandals of recent times and living too loose but WOE be unto us- we could do the same if we are not watchful and praying too. human nature is human nature
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09-23-2007, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Thad
Yes I do agree power corrupts even amongst oneness circles this can and has happend. we are not expempt from the evils that can come with wealth and sucess just because we are Jesus only .
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There is no One God Jesus name people at the stardom level of Benny Hinn.
Those who have crashed and burned from the One God ranks and went national on the headlines of nation wide papers where not conservatives.
So that you tell everyone something.
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Originally Posted by Thad
I think the charismatics are crumbling partly because of this prosperity doctrine , not being accountable, the scandals of recent times and living too loose but WOE be unto us- we could do the same if we are not watchful and praying too. human nature is human nature
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Well, if the television issue makes it and gets voted in everyone will get their chance to see what will happen next.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
www.OnTimeJournal.com
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09-23-2007, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Well Hinn is making the inroads on multiple AFF threads, so I just gotta ask this.
Is there anyone here who does not think Benny Hinn is a sham and a scammer?
Not to question whether or not there are real Christians at his "crusades", but does anyone give what goes on in the name of "ministry" as anything greater than a circus or a magic show?
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Tell you what, I went to a Benny Hinn crusade about two or three years ago when he was in Chicago (Thanks again, Sis Vicki for the VIP seating  )
What I can tell you is that there wasn't a circuis. Everything was decent and in order. There was not a petition for some big extravagant offering.
When God started healing people, Hinn didn't step to the pulpit and speak "the word of faith" or anything like that, the gift of healing just filled the stadium as the people worshipped.
When I arrived at the stadium I saw a man help his wife out of their van. She was in a wheelchair and was connected to a big oxygen tank. I watched that lady get healed in the service, come out of her wheelchair and diconnect the hoses to the tank. No one was screaming at her or messing up her hair as they prayed for her....she and her husband were along worshipping God.
When the peopled that had been healed line up to give their testimony there was Dr's there to verify different things. There was ladies who gave you a testimony card to fill out and sign. It was all very organized.
I obviously don't agree with how Hinn preaches salvation, but I gotta give him his props...people come to the crusades believing that if they can just get in the door, they will receive their miracle. Benny Hinn's ministry team create an atmosphere of worship and faith. Whether they preach the whole truth or not, God takes pleasure in the praises of His people. He will always respond to faith....
AND THAT"S THE WAY IT WAS
..........ok now I'm going to brace for the beating I'm about to take...... 
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09-23-2007, 11:34 PM
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One more thing, the healings were happening throughout the service....
God was being exalted by the people, that had nothing to do with the man in white. The people's worship and praise, brings God into those stadiums.
Whether you agree with everything he preaches, I think you can agree that Benny Hinn has helped a lot of people to have faith for their miracles....
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09-23-2007, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
One more thing, the healings were happening throughout the service....
God was being exalted by the people, that had nothing to do with the man in white. The people's worship and praise, brings God into those stadiums.
Whether you agree with everything he preaches, I think you can agree that Benny Hinn has helped a lot of people to have faith for their miracles....
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Actually this is where I am still VERY skeptical. But I am listening - no beatings for you - YET! 
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09-23-2007, 11:39 PM
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I'm going to change what I wrote above and say
In my opinion he has helped a lot of people to have faith......no one has to agree, just my opinion
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09-23-2007, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
I'm going to change what I wrote above and say
In my opinion he has helped a lot of people to have faith......no one has to agree, just my opinion |
OK - no beating then.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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