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Old 09-18-2007, 03:58 PM
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I have seen a lot of discussion about Promiseland (Phillips/Suber) church recently, (I knew nothing about promiseland until this forum), but from the discussion I started to conclude that this church is far removed from preaching the necessity of Acts 2:38. I am glad I came across this short video, otherwise I would have concluded that this was an apostate church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlNQQhSqd_Y

LOL!!! Anybody who knows much about KP knows that Acts 2:38 IS his entire ministry. That has been his passion and burden for many years. To take the Acts 2:38 message to the world.

Any associations with trinitarians has been with that end in mind. He is not y our typical exUPC church that is what we refer to as PCI in doctrine on AFF.

He is a PAJC three stepper all the way.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:01 PM
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Nothing wrong with being PCI (though I don't agree), but Randy is diluted PCI. How many parts of water to one part of bleach? Now add three times the water.
What exactly do you mean here? You have made a very broad assertion with no specificity.

What do you think is different about RP than most exUPC PCI churches like Christ Church, Mike Hayes Covenant Church, etc, etc.?

Sounds to me like you just wanted to make a flamboyent statement with nothing to back it up. How is RP any more or less diluted than other PCI folks?
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:05 PM
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I don't know ...but it does seem to me that PCD are still just three guys who like to write songs & sing..and worship... I don't or haven't seen them really get stuck on themselves... like some others still singing in UPC circles...
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What exactly do you mean here? You have made a very broad assertion with no specificity.

What do you think is different about RP than most exUPC PCI churches like Christ Church, Mike Hayes Covenant Church, etc, etc.?

Sounds to me like you just wanted to make a flamboyent statement with nothing to back it up. How is RP any more or less diluted than other PCI folks?
It was a statement not meant for YOUR reaction, LoL. Good grief, I was hoping some CON would run with it...:sshhh

I haven't been on in a while, and I needed a little drama.
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I don't know ...but it does seem to me that PCD are still just three guys who like to write songs & sing..and worship... I don't or haven't seen them really get stuck on themselves... like some others still singing in UPC circles...
PCD, my favorite group.
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Nothing wrong with being PCI (though I don't agree), but Randy is diluted PCI. How many parts of water to one part of bleach? Now add three times the water.
hey, I agree with you 100%

my "oh my" was more about how accurate your comment was, and the implications of that.
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What exactly do you mean here? You have made a very broad assertion with no specificity.

What do you think is different about RP than most exUPC PCI churches like Christ Church, Mike Hayes Covenant Church, etc, etc.?

Sounds to me like you just wanted to make a flamboyent statement with nothing to back it up. How is RP any more or less diluted than other PCI folks?
I have said this before but it is worth repeating.

I have a sister that has completely rejected any form of standards that we OPs have held. She likes Pentecostal church but will not go to one that is even remotely connected to some form of standards.

She visited MHs church in the Dallas area and reported to me that she would not go back there because "that isnt real"

her words not mine.
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What exactly do you mean here? You have made a very broad assertion with no specificity.

What do you think is different about RP than most exUPC PCI churches like Christ Church, Mike Hayes Covenant Church, etc, etc.?

Sounds to me like you just wanted to make a flamboyent statement with nothing to back it up. How is RP any more or less diluted than other PCI folks?
CC1, much of what is termed as PCI these days doesnt resemble the PCI men of old. RP is diluted PCI and so are a bunch more. there isnt a dimes worth of difference between them and the local methodist church.
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hey, I agree with you 100%

my "oh my" was more about how accurate your comment was, and the implications of that.
:sshhh shoosh... I'm trying to dodge it...
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KP does indeed hold to the Water/Spirit doctrine and is solidly Oneness in doctrine.

However, his associations thru the years have been across the board, having preached for trinitarians and he has had trinitarians preach for him.

His assocations now range from Water/Spirit people to folk with what we call the PCI doctrine.

His son's doctrinal views are not nearly as strong as KPs.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could unify anyways? They still preach Oneness and Acts 2:38...
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