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03-01-2007, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Suppose someone comes to an altar and repents in a church service or revival meeting. And they request baptism ,should you go on and immediately baptism them burying them with Him in the name of The Lord or you should instruct them about baptism and then take them to a watery grave?
Or should one strike while the iron is hot so to speak?
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If they have repented and understand what repentance means baptism immediately
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03-01-2007, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
So in other words ST.MATT. baptize them wheter they really understand what they are doing?
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Why does understanding why have to do with anything? Can't you obey the Lord out of faith without understanding why yet? Are we supposed to be like little kids "why? Why? Why?"?
No where in the bible did they ask for a bible lesson first on why baptism...they just obeyed
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03-01-2007, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I agree that things should be done in proper order. But I sometimes wonder why we want to teach someone that does not have spiritual eye's to see into the kingdom. If we go ahead and bury the dead, and let them come forth resurrected in the holy ghost, they are then ready to understand what has taken place.
We don't but a microphone on a mothers womb and explain to the baby what is fixen to happen to them when they come out of the womb. We do not talk to dead folks and let them know that we are getting ready to bury them in the earth. Why spend time trying to teach someone something they cannot see with spiritual eyes. Why not wait until they are born again, and then they will be able to see it with spiritual eyes.
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I can't believe I have just read what I have read here. I am glad that I understood why I was being baptized. I feel you rob believers of something very special by not making sure that they fully appreciate the full significance of baptism. I have had far too many people who have expressed that they wished they could be rebaptized once they heard me explain the full significance of it during a message, to not take the time to share with someone what baptism means.
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03-01-2007, 11:52 PM
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1sam 15:22 So Samuel said:
“Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.
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03-01-2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed
I can't believe I have just read what I have read here. I am glad that I understood why I was being baptized. I feel you rob believers of something very special by not making sure that they fully appreciate the full significance of baptism. I have had far too many people who have expressed that they wished they could be rebaptized once they heard me explain the full significance of it during a message, to not take the time to share with someone what baptism means.
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It doesn't take long to explain the significance of baptism. You can do it in a minute or so. If they are obedient they will not be debating with you
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03-01-2007, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed
I can't believe I have just read what I have read here. I am glad that I understood why I was being baptized. I feel you rob believers of something very special by not making sure that they fully appreciate the full significance of baptism. I have had far too many people who have expressed that they wished they could be rebaptized once they heard me explain the full significance of it during a message, to not take the time to share with someone what baptism means.
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TB ... the re-nactment is only at step 1 ... the water is about to break ... quick ... stat .... call a doctor ...
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03-01-2007, 11:55 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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Here's what I was taught about baptism, "Does anyone want to be baptized tonight? ( I was already repented) and I felt it was the thing to do so I went up. Heres what I was taught about the Holy Ghost, before I went under the water I was told " when you come up out of the water, lift your hands and start praising and thanking Jesus, and if you start saying words you dont understand just keep on speaking them, that means you are recieving the gift of the Holy Ghost." I knew nothing about Holy Ghost, or why to be baptized in Jesus' name, or speaking in tongues, but I came out of the water filled with the Holy Ghost, speaking in tongues. I learned afterwards what it all meant, and praised God all the more.
So I say if someone feels they are ready to be baptized, than do it. It's really between him or her and God.
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03-02-2007, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
1sam 15:22 So Samuel said:
“Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams.
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Your out of context on this one!
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03-02-2007, 12:04 AM
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Prax ... u ready for this????
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03-02-2007, 12:05 AM
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Your out of context on this one!
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how am I out of context on this one?
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