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Old 03-01-2007, 10:22 AM
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What do you suspect they will find in reviewing what others have experienced by advertising via hell box
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I will comment.

I think it sounds like someone is using their brain. Great idea to present both sides and send out a vote to everyone.

Charging for attendance will be a burr for some, but I understand why they are doing it. Any other conference you attend charges registration.
I disagree, as it goes against the guidelines for voting in the manual. Why not do this for every resoulution - including ministerial dues increases? I guarantee you, you'll never see that one happen.
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I'm not for sure what that means.

Classic example of a preacher not being able to judge correctly.
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I disagree, as it goes against the guidelines for voting in the manual. Why not do this for every resoulution - including ministerial dues increases? I guarantee you, you'll never see that one happen.
I understood that it wasn't going to count as the vote though. However, if it doesn't count as a vote, then why do it?
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:27 AM
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It would seem if one were to advertise via hell box then they would reach some hellions.

Isn't that the desired audience?
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I'm not for sure what that means.

Classic example of a preacher not being able to judge correctly.
Forgive me if I am wrong....I thought you were saying it as thoug you are against res 6.

If so...really sorry.
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What do you suspect they will find in reviewing what others have experienced by advertising via hell box
The results will be mixed.

As with any product offered, the commitment to advertising is key. A small sampling will simply not be adequate to get a real feel for it's potential success or failure.

There will be no real "finding". There will only be opinions as to how it would affect us. Look for a lot of emotional hand-wringing and postulating in the next month or two.

I know this may be hard to fathom, but the intensity of this discussion has not peaked yet. It's about to get gory. This has the potential to be a much bigger organizational split than I would have ever imagined.

By publishing 10 men, five on each side, we are asking for further polarization. This is a disaster in the making. Batten down the hatches, a mammoth storm is on the horizon.
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I understood that it wasn't going to count as the vote though. However, if it doesn't count as a vote, then why do it?
It will not count as a vote.....just info about the heartbeat of the whole ministering body BEFORE the vote of those present.
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It will not count as a vote.....just info about the heartbeat of the whole ministering body BEFORE the vote of those present.
Like that will change anything.

What I think is unfair is the pastors of small churches that are unable to attend GC and can't vote to have a say.
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Old 03-01-2007, 10:34 AM
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I understood that it wasn't going to count as the vote though. However, if it doesn't count as a vote, then why do it?
Exactly, it circumvents the process, and puts pressure on the voting quorum
at GC. If the voting bloc does not follow the "survey" of all ministers, look for a cry to go up in Egypt - such has never been heard before.
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