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Old 09-02-2007, 09:33 PM
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Ahh, but Calvary is applied to us when we obey the scriptures including the need for baptism, which is where FAITH must be exerted. Without faith, nothing saves.
We are not saved by works.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:41 PM
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Ahh, but Calvary is applied to us when we obey the scriptures including the need for baptism, which is where FAITH must be exerted. Without faith, nothing saves.
Ah ... brother Blume .... you've met my sister. Perhaps you may want present your exegesis on how the blood is applied during baptism and other acts of obedience.
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We are not saved by works.
Sure we're saved by works, the work of the cross and grace. It takes faith and obedience to take part in the new birth. Being baptized is not a "work" but obedience to the commandment of Christ: 'He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved"
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:47 PM
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Sure we're saved by works, the work of the cross and grace. It takes faith and obedience to take part in the new birth. Being baptized is not a "work" but obedience to the commandment of Christ: 'He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved"
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Sure we're saved by works, the work of the cross and grace. It takes faith and obedience to take part in the new birth. Being baptized is not a "work" but obedience to the commandment of Christ: 'He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved"
Our sins are remitted/forgiven at our point of faith ....repentance .... period.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:49 PM
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Ah ... brother Blume .... you've met my sister. Perhaps you may want present your exegesis on how the blood is applied during baptism and other acts of obedience.
Daniel, I was raised my whole life with the teaching that the only place that the Blood is applied is in baptism.

It wasn't till I came to these different forums that I found Apostolics teach that the Blood isn't applied at all, rather it is appropriated.
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:50 PM
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.....washing of regeneration.....I wonder where that takes place???

Beside it's not my righteousness that does anything for my salvation, it's obedience to the Righteous Judge, that brings righteousness into my life.
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Our sins are remitted/forgiven at our point of faith ....repentance .... period.
Hon, can you give Scripture for this?!
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For those that forgot their bible in their car, this is what it says:


"he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit."
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Old 09-02-2007, 09:52 PM
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I was raised my whole life with the teaching that the only place that the Blood is applied is in baptism.

Yep, through groovy biblical gymnastics...
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