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Old 09-01-2007, 06:24 PM
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We need that if we are going to survive the REAL WORLD
Yes but HOW do we do it? How did the first church, which dealt with Jewish and Roman persecution and death cope? Do we need to incorporate non-bible psychology?
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Yes but HOW do we do it? How did the first church, which dealt with Jewish and Roman persecution and death cope? Do we need to incorporate non-bible psychology?
Again, like I stated before, we can't survive on Acts 2:38 and standards. Paul's messages were more than that... that was the point I was trying to make.
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:33 PM
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Again, like I stated before, we can't survive on Acts 2:38 and standards. Paul's messages were more than that... that was the point I was trying to make.
In all of my years around the Apostolic Movement, I have never, ever known even one single preacher that thought those two topics were all that people needed.

That is a rotten, decomposing red herring.
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:38 PM
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In all of my years around the Apostolic Movement, I have never, ever known even one single preacher that thought those two topics were all that people needed.

That is a rotten, decomposing red herring.
Ok maybe not all they preached, just 99.9% of the time
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Again, like I stated before, we can't survive on Acts 2:38 and standards. Paul's messages were more than that... that was the point I was trying to make.
What pastor preaches Acts 2:38 and standards week in and week out? Sheep arent' fed with that message. That message is how they became sheep in the first place.

A happening church is where the Spirit is making things happen because His children are seeking His face. It can happen where two or three are gathered together and everyone sings off key but from the heart. But the epitomy of a happening church is what we read about in the book of Acts.
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In all of my years around the Apostolic Movement, I have never, ever known even one single preacher that thought those two topics were all that people needed.

That is a rotten, decomposing red herring.
I never attended any churches like that.
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Again, like I stated before, we can't survive on Acts 2:38 and standards. Paul's messages were more than that... that was the point I was trying to make.
I didn't even mention Acts 2:38 or standards...lol

Can someone tell me what a HAPPENING CHURCH is and what a DEAD CHURCH is in their opinion?
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Old 09-01-2007, 06:42 PM
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Ok maybe not all they preached, just 99.9% of the time
I have never seen that, and I grew up in a far more conservative area than NYC.

How many of these awful churches have you attended enough to know this about them?

You would have to go for a good while to really be able to make such a judgment.

Truly, this sounds like one of those Pentecostal urban myths, the horrible preachers who preach nothing but Acts 2:38 and standards.

So tell us...how many can you say for sure are like this, in your experience?

Or is this assumption and hearsay?
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In all of my years around the Apostolic Movement, I have never, ever known even one single preacher that thought those two topics were all that people needed.

That is a rotten, decomposing red herring.
I agree, particularly when the other participants never brought it up as an issue or when they themselves never have in the past as an issue (me). After a while it gets annoying and when just about every topic ends up like that it just drags them all down imo
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I never attended any churches like that.
Me either. It really boggles the mind lol
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