what a shame, there is obviously more in these folks hearts and lives than we know, never disrespect people who are sincere in there beliefs even if they are wrong, if it is our place to show them right, that still must be done in a good spirit or the bad attitude closes the door to enlightenment, what a shame, dt
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A product of a pentecostal raisin, I am a hard man, just ask my children
I agree with Sherri and PM, they were out of order.
I do NOT agree with all the standards that are taught by many as being salvational, yet I still abide by them, as I am still a part of this organization.
I have no problem with any organization drawing lines as to how they want to be identified. However, I do have a problem when it is taught as salvational when it is NOT.
I would not want to cause anyone to stumble over something they could not adhere to. Yet, at the same time I understand that drawing lines is an attempt to keep them safe.
I think some have drawn their lines to far out, not even reasonable. That seems to always bring a self-righteous spirit with it.
Balance is a very hard thing to achieve. It seems to vary by many different opinions.
I know we are in the hour of deception, and knowing that I am hesitant to make any changes lest I be deceived.
But I think you are right Steadfast, changes are coming. How will it be handled? Who knows. I hope with love.
How many thousands of times have I contemplated to the very depths of my souls this very vein of thought.
I could say a great deal after having seen so much of intentional indiscretions. But, I've also seen a great deal that came from purposeful discretion.
I too had come to a crossroad in my own life. I hid away for many days in fasting and prayer. No it was not a question of holiness, wordliness, doctrine or anything related. No one is any more resolute than I on doctrine and known by some to be an ultra con, others a little on the liberal side. But, in this regard, I believe in holiness both inwardly and outwardly too. I wil never compromise in this regard.
While not really seeking the Lord specifically about the thing that was on my mind, never the less the Lord saw it and answered me in a very clear way, speaking to my very soul. I heard the Lord say, "You have a choice. You can be man's man or you can be my man. But you cannot be both." That answered the question in my mind once and for all...and for all eternity.
I have learned that if you truly walk with God, you will eventually walk ALONE with God. This statement may seem totally ludicrous to the typical fellowship officinatos that find their fellowship to be the strength of the Everlasting Arm. I am afraid that they have built the faith of their grandchildren, if not their children on sinking sand rather than the solid rock that will endure the test of time. To lean upon the passing fellowship fancy of the day will leave us empty in generatons to come.
Purposeful discretion rather than intentional indiscretion may be considered the extreme for some but it is better to walk with God alone that will lead forever onward and upward rather than lean upon the temporary whims of a fickle fellowship that will change with the wind, subject to the ballot and the 51% voting majority. To surrender control of your ministry, you life, hopes and dreams to such whims will surely pass at the first high tide or strong gale.
Just my surface thoughts here, without going any deeper into the greater area of contemplation that has been with me for much of my life.
I have placed face after face in this same story my heart hurts. Most wind up shipwrecked their marriages doomed their children forever confused. Those who do stay together doctinally lose their moorings. The hurt never leaves when you see them you thing what they could have been. I had a friend who pastor went this direction fell into immorality yet kept his church it dwindled to a handful and all his kids go to an AG church. I weep thinking of what they had and what they could have been.
I have placed face after face in this same story my heart hurts. Most wind up shipwrecked their marriages doomed their children forever confused. Those who do stay together doctinally lose their moorings. The hurt never leaves when you see them you thing what they could have been. I had a friend who pastor went this direction fell into immorality yet kept his church it dwindled to a handful and all his kids go to an AG church. I weep thinking of what they had and what they could have been.
and I have a friend who fell into immorality, lost his church, went that direction, started a new one in the same town, and now has the largest church of any kind in that city. He is leading more folk into false doctrine than anyone else there. so sad.
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