Since the heart is only known by God, how can we be SURE?

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thanks guys! Guess if I had posted a picture of Dora it might have received more views!

Isn't that amazing...what inquiring minds really want... well I am glad to have been a participant of this thread.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thanks guys! Guess if I had posted a picture of Dora it might have received more views!

Yup...only stupid threads get attention. But then again, if you keep posting here until you get to page 31 then suddenly your thread too will become a stupid thread too

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Yup...only stupid threads get attention. But then again, if you keep posting here until you get to page 31 then suddenly your thread too will become a stupid thread too

I think RG is complaining of being praxxed....I direct your attention to:


http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...7&postcount=31

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

I think that passage is speaking of unrepentant folks, not just people who have done so in the past or struggle with it. When we repent, God not only forgives, He forgets. When we ask forgiveness again, God doesn't remember that we just asked forgiveness for the same thing yesterday, the day before, 1000 times last year, etc. It's as if we are asking for the first time.

Since we don't know the hearts of others, it's not for us to judge, but I think we know when someone is repentant and when they aren't. I believe it's the latter that Paul is addressing, and I agree with him.

Good post HO! The question that this thread brings to my mind is this. Since we have all sinned and fallen short, and have failed one another, and needed forgiveness. And since God is the only one who truly knows a person's heart, and because I have certainly needed forgiveness in my own life, I tend to take the position, "Why would I even need to know if someone is sincere or not?" Our responsibility is to reflect the character of God, who forgives and forgets. Thus to remember and be always questioning is out of character with being a Christian.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Good post HO! The question that this thread brings to my mind is this. Since we have all sinned and fallen short, and have failed one another, and needed forgiveness. And since God is the only one who truly knows a person's heart, and because I have certainly needed forgiveness in my own life, I tend to take the position, "Why would I even need to know if someone is sincere or not?" Our responsibility is to reflect the character of God, who forgives and forgets. Thus to remember and be always questioning is out of character with being a Christian.

I agree in most cases, however, what if there is someone that could be a threat or risk to others, do we just forgive and forget and turn our heads to what could take place?

[Ron]

A little discernment helps as well.

Ever had a parent say to thier kids, "don't go with that person."
"But why Mom?"
"I don't know, I just don't feel right."

We can love forgive and forget, but sometimes God will allow are spirit to sound a warning we need to heed-to be careful.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Thanks guys! Guess if I had posted a picture of Dora it might have received more views!

I was glad you didn't post a pic of Dora...she may need to be put to bed soon.

"By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." John 13:35

And the commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also. 1 John 4:21

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 1 John 4:7-8

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ron

A little discernment helps as well.

Ever had a parent say to thier kids, "don't go with that person."
"But why Mom?"
"I don't know, I just don't feel right."

We can love forgive and forget, but sometimes God will allow are spirit to sound a warning we need to heed-to be careful.

Yes, Ron I have and I've done that too. You are exactly right and the heed to be careful is in those scriptures too, or at least I believe I could read it that way.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I agree in most cases, however, what if there is someone that could be a threat or risk to others, do we just forgive and forget and turn our heads to what could take place?

Well ....... what would you like to do?

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by RevDWW

Extra heavy on the gentle!!!!

As Christ is with us!