A Reverend's Rambling Review of 'Relevance'

[Coonskinner]

Wrong.

I say that the analogy of Jew/Gentile Conservative/Liberal is not a good analogy.

That's all I was saying.

Please don't insert your agenda into my statement.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Wrong.

I say that the analogy of Jew/Gentile Conservative/Liberal is not a good analogy.

That's all I was saying.

Please don't insert your agenda into my statement.

So, in your estimation, can Cons and Libs be united as I have suggested with the scripture?...my agenda is not to cause disunity if that is what you are suggesting (why would I use that scripture if that were so)...quite contrary, I am saying they can co-exist and unite and your objection seemed to think differently.

It would be interesting to see if you would address my question. I won't hold my breath...

[Coonskinner]

It depends on your definition of lib.

There are certain parameters outside of which I cannot fellowship.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It depends on your definition of lib.

There are certain parameters outside of which I cannot fellowship.

My definition of libs or cons is the licensed ministers of the UPCI...can these licensed ministers truly co-exist?

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

It depends on your definition of lib.

There are certain parameters outside of which I cannot fellowship.

Originally Posted by J-Roc

My definition of libs or cons is the licensed ministers of the UPCI...can these licensed ministers truly co-exist?

I have my hallucinations of what you think...either openly confirm them or take the opportunity to prove my hallucinations wrong.

[Sherri]

Good article, Steadfast. Although we don't agree, I'm sure, on what constitutes outward holiness, we agree that inward holiness is of utmost importance and that it will manifest on the outside. Everyone has to be open to the convictions from the Holy Ghost that will change them and make them like Him.

I do believe in being relevant to a generation, but not necessarily relevant to the world, in the sense of "worldliness" or sin. I think there's a difference. We serve Starbuck's, come fairly casual, have a hot worship band (put awesome praise & worship), etc. etc. I don't think there's anything wrong with making people feel at home when they get here. If they feel accepted when they walk in, they will listen to the life changing message of the gospel. It's worked for us!

[Steve Epley]

The gulf is becoming wider and wider.

[J-Roc]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The gulf is becoming wider and wider.

Please elaborate on this comment, Elder.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by J-Roc

Please elaborate on this comment, Elder.

I am so out of step with Contemporary Pentecost. When I visit their meetings from the music to the message I am out of touch. I have NO desire to blend in and they have NO desire for their past. I went to a PAW youth convention in Louisville the banner said "Building a Bridge to our Past" But Haywood-Tobin-Carl Smith-Willie Lee and etc. would have never recognized their own spiritual decendants. The music was(professional to say the least) entertaining but void of worship, the preaching was hip(no message just entertaining). The appearance would have been the same at a Baptist convention. The Nation youth director was introduced his wife showed more cleavage than the girls at Hooters(never been there mind you) and a slit up to the middle of her thigh, loop earings and makeup. I left brokenhearted. The young men looked like 'gangsta rappers.' We had our conference a few years ago in Nashville at the same time the Youth conference was going on. It was indeed enlightening. NO one would have confused our young folks and those attending this meeting with the exception of a very few.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

"Jew and Gentile" are not synonymous with con and lib.

Amen!