Does Jesus know ALL things?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by bishoph

We Must rightly divide the Word. Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him Is referring to a revelation God gave to John not to Jesus Christ.

I agree...

Originally Posted by tbpew

just a thought...
Matt 28:18 happened between these two witnesses.

Aaaaaah haaaaaa....

That is EXACTLY right.

A VERY GOOD thought indeed.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

but Peter was speaking to Jesus in his humanity and said to Jesus, who was in the similtude of man, that He knew all things. Peter wasn't praying to the Jesus, who is God the Father in heaven, but to Jesus, in his human form.

The problem is in actually separating a Jesus in His Human form from Jesus as God in heaven. Jesus is not two different persons in two different locations. Peter must have recognized that Jesus was NOT just human in nature, but was God in person and nature too. That or Peter was clueless at the time

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by bishoph

We Must rightly divide the Word. Rev 1:1 1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him Is referring to a revelation God gave to John not to Jesus Christ.

No, since John is writing he would have said "which God gave to ME"...this is a grammatical construction where the pronoun can only refer to the antecedent. Otherwise grammar and language are meaningless and we can make words mean whatever we want and thus the bible is meaningless

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Jesus lost his humanity? I think not. He is just as much a man today as he ever was. In fact, he is our proto type man.

In Jn 16:30 the disciples said of Jesus that he knew all things. This was said of Jesus because he knew their hearts. It is said that he commited himself to know man because he knew the hearts of all men. This is true in John 21 also. He knew the hearts and minds of the people.

This is not to say that before he was glorified that he knew the day and the hour. Clearly, he did not, as he testified of that inability.

However, after his glorification, he came into his omnscient state of God knowledge, knowing all things, having received all power both in heaven and in earth. Omniscience is a component of all power.

Bro. Strange...

What ever makes you think that I think Jesus lost His humanity?

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

The problem is in actually separating a Jesus in His Human form from Jesus as God in heaven. Jesus is not two different persons in two different locations. Peter must have recognized that Jesus was NOT just human in nature, but was God in person and nature too. That or Peter was clueless at the time

I agree that Jesus is not just human in nature...He is God made flesh. How is it possible for Jesus not to know all things ie: his second coming and for Peter to say to the Jesus that He knows all things and Jesus not rebuke Peter?

Prax, God is not a person. The self of God is much different that the self of a human being.

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.

The thread title uses the present tense "DOES"? Jesus in his present position, now, at the right hand of power and authority, does indeed, NOW, know all things.

I agree with you fully that, in His humanity, Jesus did not know all things.

Jesus, although He was God, could not operate here legally, as God. He had to have a body to exercise authority in the Earth. He had to lay aside His divinity, and operate as a man, born of a woman, (Lk 1:35) anointed of the Holy Ghost, (Matt 3:16) and He stood in the office of a prophet. (Lk 4:24) He also operated in all the gifts of the Spirit. That's how, at times, He knew things that others did not know.

God could not save mankind, as God, because He had given "dominion over all the Earth", to mankind. Therefore God the Father, had to make Himself a body, and "provide Himself a Lamb for a burnt offering:" (Gen 22:8). And"...therefore mine own arm brought salvation..."(Isa 63:5)

Jesus always called Himself "the son of man". The devils tried to call him the "Son of God", and He told them to shut up! He never did anything, during His earth life here, using His "Son of God" authority. He did all those signs wonders and miracles, as the "Son of man". (John 5:27)

In other words, He ministered on earth, exactly like we should today, After all, we are His body here on Earth.

Originally Posted by big-larry

The thread title uses the present tense "DOES"? Jesus in his present position, now, at the right hand of power and authority, does indeed, NOW, know all things.

I agree with you fully that, in His humanity, Jesus did not know all things.

Jesus, although He was God, could not operate here legally, as God. He had to have a body to exercise authority in the Earth. He had to lay aside His divinity, and operate as a man, born of a woman, (Lk 1:35) anointed of the Holy Ghost, (Matt 3:16) and He stood in the office of a prophet. (Lk 4:24) He also operated in all the gifts of the Spirit. That's how, at times, He knew things that others did not know.

God could not save mankind, as God, because He had given "dominion over all the Earth", to mankind. Therefore God the Father, had to make Himself a body, and "provide Himself a Lamb for a burnt offering:" (Gen 22:8). And"...therefore mine own arm brought salvation..."(Isa 63:5)

Jesus always called Himself "the son of man". The devils tried to call him the "Son of God", and He told them to shut up! He never did anything, during His earth life here, using His "Son of God" authority. He did all those signs wonders and miracles, as the "Son of man". (John 5:27)

In other words, He ministered on earth, exactly like we should today, After all, we are His body here on Earth.

So, indwelt with ALL the FULLNESS of the the Godhead (ruling authority) bodily, the man Christ Jesus did not know all things? Hmmm?

I once asked if God, having all knowledge or knowing all things, could choose NOT TO KNOW some things and I was ridiculed and 'sniff sniff snuffle" abused by some of you folks.

i just don't know what to believe.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Bro. Strange...

What ever makes you think that I think Jesus lost His humanity?

From this statement:

Felicity


Jesus in His humanity didn't know all things.

We understand that he presently knows all things. We also know that presently he is a man according to scriptures.

So, I naturally assumed that you were saying that he lost his humanity since he presently knows all things.

Wrong assumption?

[Bro-Larry]

Originally Posted by philjones

So, indwelt with ALL the FULLNESS of the the Godhead (ruling authority) bodily, the man Christ Jesus did not know all things? Hmmm?

I once asked if God, having all knowledge or knowing all things, could choose NOT TO KNOW some things and I was ridiculed and 'sniff sniff snuffle" abused by some of you folks.

i just don't know what to believe.

Bro Phil,
I'm sure we are in pretty close agreement, Rom 1:20 and Closs 2:9 were written after Jesus ascended.