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Old 07-30-2007, 01:41 PM
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Just a few weeks ago Elder Epley asserted that all of God's DNA was in Jesus.
I said the blood or sperm came from God but Eve funished the egg like in every pregnantcy.
Adam and Eve were EARTHY NOT heavenly. I have personall read where DF ardents deny the kinsman redeemer they mocked it.
Divine Flesh is not only heresy it is lunacy.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:44 PM
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I said the blood or sperm came from God but Eve funished the egg like in every pregnantcy.
Adam and Eve were EARTHY NOT heavenly. I have personall read where DF ardents deny the kinsman redeemer they mocked it.
Divine Flesh is not only heresy it is lunacy.
It's not as looney as saying God supplied the blood or sperm ... Sorry ... that's a twist on DF theology ... no matter how it's spinned.
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Old 07-30-2007, 01:54 PM
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It's not as looney as saying God supplied the blood or sperm ... Sorry ... that's a twist on DF theology ... no matter how it's spinned.
Mary was indeed HIs biological mother and she was the SEED of David and Abraham however His Father was the Eternal God who furnished the blood or sperm. She CONCIEVED takes TWO to concieve.
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Mary was indeed HIs biological mother and she was the SEED of David and Abraham however His Father was the Eternal God who furnished the blood or sperm. She CONCIEVED takes TWO to concieve.
Humanly yes.. but His ways are above our ways.. He spoke the Word and created the Worlds... He could have just Spoke the Word without the Work and created Jesus in Mary.. do you think this?
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:03 PM
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Humanly yes.. but His ways are above our ways.. He spoke the Word and created the Worlds... He could have just Spoke the Word without the Work and created Jesus in Mary.. do you think this?
She was OVERSHADOWED by the Holy Ghost and she CONCIEVED of the Holy Ghost.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:05 PM
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I don't believe Jesus had any other kind of blood than any of the rest of us. I don't believe in divine sperm either.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:08 PM
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I don't believe Jesus had any other kind of blood than any of the rest of us. I don't believe in divine sperm either.
Yikes. (Gulp) I agree with Bro Epley here…. Jesus was Fathered by the Holy Spirit, the egg of Mary conceived something.. what else could it be?
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:09 PM
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This is where the Elder once again wants us to accept his ideology as God given word ....

He establishes this false doctrine on the premise that life is in the blood ...

1. God is a spirit ... with no blood or sperm

2. All humans have 48 chromosomes. Through meiosis and then the reproductive process ... a man's sperm supplies 24 chromosomes and the woman's egg supplies 24 to make a total HUMAN ... W/ 48 chromosomes.

If we use Epleyian logic and natural laws and apply it to the baby Jesus that was conceived ....God's sperm/blood would supply 24 chromosomes and Mary would have supplied the other 24 ... to make Jesus ... half man and half God???

Or of course we can say he's all man and all God ... as the Elder still asserts ... and that would mean Jesus had 72 chromosomes ... making him not a human by any measure.

We don't have to explain the supernatural ... folks ... the virgin's conception is just that ... SUPERNATURAL ....

The Elder also forgets that what animated and created the living soul which we call man ... is not blood ... but HIS BREATH!!!!
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:17 PM
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Yikes. (Gulp) I agree with Bro Epley here…. Jesus was Fathered by the Holy Spirit, the egg of Mary conceived something.. what else could it be?
Jesus was born of the seed of Abraham.

The late Rev. Kenneth Reeves, Lld, Dr. of Jurisprudence, and one of the finest Bible Teachers that I've ever heard, stated that it was IN FACT, the seed of Abraham that was stored in the body of the woman (seed of the woman) passed down from generation to generation until it came forth in Mary.

Too long of a bible study to give it here, but it convinced me beyond all doubt. Though bro. Reeves, my friend in life, is now dead, you may be able to get that tape from his church in Illinois.
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:24 PM
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(Matthew 1:18) Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Please notice whose the child's father was... he was the child of the Holy Ghost... this implies a part in the child's creation
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