Tommy Tenney on Invoking the Name of Jesus: Magic Equation or Presence?

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Daniel,
You can't separate Jesus from His name.When you call His name He comes.
People who have never known Him have gotten down on the sides of their
beds or down on their knees in desperation and said that powerful name
and behold He came to them.His name is attatched to the bearer of that name.That is why in Him we live and move and have our being.That is why
we can say as baptised believers that we are part of the body of Jesus
Christ.Not just a group but His actual body.His blood washed body.That
is why salvation in His name is so essential.It cements in the fact that
it is the only Name given among men whereby we can be saved.It is
why every knee shall bow and every tongue confess.
Your dad did more for you than to leave you silver or gold.He left you
the knowledge of that name and who is attatched to it.

The name is undoubtedly attached to the person.

A sinner who has sincerely believed and calls upon the name of the Lords shall be saved ....

John says

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And his commandment is this: we should believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and love one another just as he commanded us
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I write these things to you so that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God.

As does Joel:

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32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

As does the Psalmist:

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• Psalm 116:4, "Then called I upon the name of the LORD [YHWH] ; O LORD [YHWH], I beseech thee, deliver my soul."

As does Paul:

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13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

As does Ananias:

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"And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."

As does Peter:

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21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

[Trouvere]

Daniel that would mean that He has the power to go and get those who
are calling His name and bring them to truth.That happened in my life.

[stmatthew]

I had the opportunity to read this book about 4 or so months ago prior to its publishing. It was a good book. I will say that I enjoyed it much more than his other "Chaser" books.

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Daniel that would mean that He has the power to go and get those who
are calling His name and bring them to truth.That happened in my life.

Why would he have to "bring" them to the truth ... WHEN HE IS THE TRUTH?. He's the whole package.

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Why would he have to "bring" them to the truth ... WHEN HE IS THE TRUTH?. He's the whole package.

Daniel calling His name is not all there is.You can call my name and I can
come but if you will not listen to my voice and take my hand I cannot
help you up.If we are close enough and you are bleeding and dying I may
carry you but if you are kicking and screaming and refusing to come I
cannot make you.

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Originally Posted by Trouvere

Daniel calling His name is not all there is.You can call my name and I can
come but if you will not listen to my voice and take my hand I cannot
help you up.If we are close enough and you are bleeding and dying I may
carry you but if you are kicking and screaming and refusing to come I
cannot make you.

Calling His Name w/ no relationship indeed is ineffective - a point Tenney made in the book.

But Jesus doesn't have to carry us to the truth ... if you are in His arms you are IN TRUTH.

The idea that our doctrine supercedes a genuine relationship w/ Christ ... is worrisome.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Calling His Name w/ no relationship indeed is ineffective - a point Tenney made in the book.

But Jesus doesn't have to carry us to the truth ... if you are in His arms you are IN TRUTH.

The idea that our doctrine supercedes a genuine relationship w/ Christ ... is worrisome.

I didn't get that from the quotes you provided. However, being converted to Christianity doesn't necessarily mean one possesses "all truth", does it? If it does, then what would you say about these scriptures?

Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? (They were already "believers") And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.


Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

"Guide you into" implies a process...that takes time...don't you agree?

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I didn't get that from the quotes you provided. However, being converted to Christianity doesn't necessarily mean one possesses "all truth", does it? If it does, then what would you say about these scriptures?

Act 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? (They were already "believers") And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.


Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

"Guide you into" implies a process...that takes time...don't you agree?

Yes but one is guided into all truth ... not to truth .... no one denies a spiritual maturation process... that comes w/ relationship .... but not simply by being indoctrinated.

"You are married to doctrine and have divorced youself from Deity." - Jeff Arnold, BOTT, 2007

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