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Old 02-24-2007, 09:20 PM
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I have never had a "word" spoken to me. Having been raise in the UPC and having seen it happen to many around me, I wondered why I never had one. I was in a service were a man of God was ministering. I felt the power of the Spirit. Toward thhe end of am alter service he motion for me to come over to him. "Finally" I thought, a word for me. As I leaned in to hear what he had to say he said "Could you please go get me a cold drink of water". On my way to get it I had to laugh.
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:30 PM
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How about prophecies made about your ministry or the direction of your life??? Do you think of them as road-signs "silently" guiding your life or milemarkers "confirming" what had been previously said?

I, of course, believe that prophecies are still for today.... and could be right or wrong depending on who said them.... what are some guidelines that you use in deciding whether to write them off or not....
I don't know...it depends on who is doing it to start with...and then some things the Bible says we can not know...soooooo not sure. I have never had anyone speak over me before, but I know some who have...some things came to pass some have not as of right now anyway!
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Old 02-24-2007, 10:38 PM
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The gift of prophecy is for edification (building up), exhortation (stirring up), and comfort (cheering up or lifting up). Prophecy needs to be judged by the written Word. Prophetic utterances are on a par with testimonies, preaching, and teaching. A person speaks as they think God is guiding them and therefore can be can be affected by the humanness of the person speaking. Prophecy can be ministered vocally as in a testimony or sermon, in a letter or card, in a phone call, in a prayer, etc.
Same would apply to tongues and interpretation.
T + I = P
Tongues plus Interpretation equal Prophecy.

Tongues and interpretation are like two nickels and prophecy is like a dime.
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:39 AM
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I had a man of God tell me things about my future when I was a teenager, (a couple of years ago!!), and when I look back it was as he said. I know these were conditional--whether I maintained my walk with the Lord or not. I believe God wants to share with us and give us direction as we follow after Him. It is also His will to edify and build us up. I have also seen "so called prophecies" given and I was a bit horrified because I knew the person being prophecied over was living in sin. I know the Lord may have had a word for that person regarding what the Lord had in store for them if they would turn around, but for those listening who did not understand it would have seemed that the Lord was condoning their sin. It is a good lesson for those who are used in that gift to be very sensitive to what the Lord is telling them. Sometimes a few words can make a big difference in the meaning.
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:49 AM
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I have never had a "word" spoken to me. Having been raise in the UPC and having seen it happen to many around me, I wondered why I never had one. I was in a service were a man of God was ministering. I felt the power of the Spirit. Toward thhe end of am alter service he motion for me to come over to him. "Finally" I thought, a word for me. As I leaned in to hear what he had to say he said "Could you please go get me a cold drink of water". On my way to get it I had to laugh.
I remember we had a man at our church that was often used in this gift. the service was powerfull and he was calling people out and ministering one on one with so many.

this was in the middle of the time when I was really making decisions about the direction of my own ministry. My prayer time alone was a real struggle and I felt absolutly lost. I was begging God for a "word" .

This guy would walk past me, look at me and keep going. ????????

what was that all about. eventually he went to my mom and spoke to her about me... but not to me.

I went to dinner one night with the evangelist and we talked some. He told me God told him that I would have to figure it out for myself. now aint that sumpen.
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Old 02-25-2007, 07:58 AM
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The Bible's prophecy: 100%

Prophecy by Christians today: None.
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:13 AM
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I remember we had a man at our church that was often used in this gift. the service was powerfull and he was calling people out and ministering one on one with so many.

this was in the middle of the time when I was really making decisions about the direction of my own ministry. My prayer time alone was a real struggle and I felt absolutly lost. I was begging God for a "word" .

This guy would walk past me, look at me and keep going. ????????

what was that all about. eventually he went to my mom and spoke to her about me... but not to me.

I went to dinner one night with the evangelist and we talked some. He told me God told him that I would have to figure it out for myself. now aint that sumpen.
I knew I felt a kindred spirit in you.
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:28 AM
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The Bible's prophecy: 100%

Prophecy by Christians today: None.
although I dont agree with you, please go into more detail as to why you said that....
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:15 AM
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There was time in my life, that I believed 100% in personal propecy, given to someone through the man of God. But, over the years, I have seen scads of prophecies NEVER come to pass, and I refuse to believe that it was because it was 'conditional' and that all of those precious folk failed God- thus, losing their 'word' from the Lord. Failed prophecy is NEVER the fault of the Prophet. It's always the person that was prophecied to that is at fault...at least that's what the 'prophets' tell us...*sigh* Where's the accountability? Can someone tell me THAT?

How much 'stock' do I put in personal prophecy? Not much.
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Old 02-25-2007, 09:27 AM
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I still believe in prophecy.

Man can fail, but for me almost without exception God confirms it through more than one person.

But it usually takes awhile before it happens.

I know some things are given to us conditionally, although there are some that discount that as being a "missed" prophecy. However, they need to go read the bible where got gave conditional promises, I believe it is in Exodus. He gave them a lot of promises IF they would obey His commandments.

Today's generation, we want it now, on our terms, OR it must not have been from God.

Ferd, I think as we mature in God, he sends us less and less Words, because He expects us to mature and get our Words directly from Him. But sometimes we just need a confirmation.

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