Who is arguing against modesty? Some of us just believe that modesty is the same for men and women and not a double-standard.
Great, and because men have more stuff below the waist and wearing pants would show that off, according to you, you suggest men and women should wear robes in order to be modest?
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
To read some of the "arguments" (for lack of a better word and one that won't get me in trouble", one might be led to believe some where don't believe in modesty at all.
Should we dress and act modestly? And if so, how do you go about deciding what is modest and what is not?
I believe in modesty with all my heart. I know when I put something on whether it would please the Lord or not. If it wouldn't, I don't wear it. The Holy Ghost in me tells me what's right and wrong.
Who is arguing against modesty? Some of us just believe that modesty is the same for men and women and not a double-standard.
BTW I am glad to hear you believe in modesty. I would like to see that others do to and what modesty is and how we come to a determination of what modesty is. BTW do you believe in a distinction of the sexes in dress?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
I believe in modesty with all my heart. I know when I put something on whether it would please the Lord or not. If it wouldn't, I don't wear it. The Holy Ghost in me tells me what's right and wrong.
Can you elaborate on that more? Do you mean that the only standard you have by which to determine what is modest or not is the Holy Ghost tells you? Is there any thought process that goes on in your thinking that is colored by what the bible says?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Can you elaborate on that more? Do you mean that the only standard you have by which to determine what is modest or not is the Holy Ghost tells you? Is there any thought process that goes on in your thinking that is colored by what the bible says?
Well, the Holy Ghost won't contradict the Bible!! I don't wear anything low cut, strappy, very short, etc. I just think some things are not modest and I don't feel right in them.
1. Let the Holy Spirit guide you
2. be discreet, chaste, temperate, display shamefacedness and sobriety.
BTW a red herring argument is where you are in a debate with someone on a topic and a person, rather than addressing his opponents argument, redirects the discussion elsewhere to something that has nothing to do with the opponents argument.
Now, where and when does the word of God come in play? If it's the HOly Spirit, should we not then we all have the same standard for modesty?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Well, the Holy Ghost won't contradict the Bible!! I don't wear anything low cut, strappy, very short, etc. I just think some things are not modest and I don't feel right in them.
The Holy Ghost won't contradict the bible, but in my experience I have met thousands of people that all claim the Spirit is leading them and yet they all come to different conclusions. My conclusion is that I don't believe every one of them was really led by the Spirit.
The word was inspired by the Spirit so part of being led BY the Spirit is also being led by the word.
Im really glad for what you say here, however I was hoping we could all come to a conclusion based on more than feeling something is not right. The reason is that we will have many that say they feel something different. We have people that feel God is telling them they don't need a church or a pastor and others feel differently.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
I think the denominal world has a pretty good handle on modesty. They don't stigmatize normal behavior, and thus remove the adrenalin rush that comes with doing normal every day things in our Western culture.
What, does the church actually believe that by regulating morality they are keeping men from sin?
Don't think so.
I need to wipe the coffee off my screen. Dude you don’t get out much do you?
I work in a secular job. I work in a white collar environment. I work with guys all day that make comments about what one lady or another is wearing. This idea that Apostolics get hot under the collar because we "aren’t used" to seeing women wearing pants is just STUPID.
It is very insulting to say the least. The very idea that either the denominal world (what ever that is) or secular business world has a handle on "modesty" and should be the Modal we Apostlics use is just wrong, inane, asinine. Do I need to continue??
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