A Godhead Question

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

I hear many OPs speak of the Spirit as "it".

I know..."they just received 'it'!!"

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

I hear many OPs speak of the Spirit as "it".

You were referring to Jesus, but then again even the bible calls Spirit "it"...why? Because Spirit is neuter gender. The greek word is Neuter gender and so it takes a neuter gender pronoun. That does not make Spirit a non-living thing. Jesus, before the incarnation is not merely an "it" (the plan or logos of God) but is God Himself.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

It doesn't say that God humbled Himself, it says Jesus humbled Himself as if He existed in eternity and although He had equality with God, He made Himself nothing. Can God become nothing?

It says He (Jesus) was in the Form OF God

Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
Php 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

It says He (Jesus) was in the Form OF God

Php 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
Php 2:8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

Is Jesus the Son?
Is Jesus God?
Is God eternal?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Is Jesus the Son?
Is Jesus God?
Is God eternal?

Is Jesus the Son?
is Jesus man?
Is man temporal?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Is Jesus the Son?
is Jesus man?
Is man temporal?

Are you speaking of the flesh or inner man, Praxeas????

The only problem w/ your syllogism is that he's both man and God ...
and as long as you assert he's also God then he is eternal also.

[Felicity]

When people talk about receiving "it" I think they're referring to the "experience" ..... not referring specifically to the Holy Ghost.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Felicity

When people talk about receiving "it" I think they're referring to the "experience" ..... not referring specifically to the Holy Ghost.

I tend to agree but many times there seems to be a blurring ... especially how some discuss the topic today ... it many times is used by some as a reference to the Spirit of God

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

When people talk about receiving "it" I think they're referring to the "experience" ..... not referring specifically to the Holy Ghost.

In this you are probably correct...never thought of that.

It always bugged me to hear that expression, so now I will have to stopped being bugged. This is a good thing...one less thing to be bugged about!!

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I tend to agree but many times there seems to be a blurring ... especially how some discuss the topic today ... it many times is used by some as a reference to the Spirit of God

True, and I think it's mostly because people associate the Holy Ghost experience (it) with the Holy Ghost. They just don't stop and think about what they're saying perhaps is all, and they repeat what everyone else says.

I'm not so sure that it needs to be made a major issue whether the Holy Ghost is referred to as "He" or "It" although there is some theology there to be understood I suppose.

I would assume that most people know who the Holy Ghost is. I sure hope so anyhow.