No it is because the first post is in bad taste ........IMHO........I said so on the other forum you posted it on too..........and I honestly do not know what comment you made or to which Dan you are speaking of........
"Well no Peter I am actually the Father, and not the Son... But hey big boy you where close!"
Gee, I wonder why He said this when He said it.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Trinitarians don't believe Jesus was at all conflicted... In fact His sonship is not based on his incarnation... It's based on His relationship eternally with the Father (Galatians 4:4) So the whole Holy Spirit thing creates no conflict, because the Sonship is not based on the incarnation of Christ, but His eternal position. You assume that the Father, or God operates in Modes of existence so when the Holy Spirit over shadowed Mary... in essence he is stating I will impregnate you with ... well me..... So you also create confusion. Gabriel said
(Luke 1:35) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
Jesus is God, and trinitarians believe this to be true. The Holy Spirit was the action... but this was not regular impregnation... the sonship is based on who Jesus is eternally not incarnationally
Eternal sonship? Good luck reconciling that notion with everything God said in the OT about there not being anyone beside Him. He alone is the Saviour.
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Rico, this is my favorite quote from John 14 concerning Jesus and the Father
John:7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
who had the disciples seen?
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Rico, this is my favorite quote from John 14 concerning Jesus and the Father
John:7If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
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