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Old 06-28-2007, 03:29 PM
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Is it taking the Lord's name in vain to say "Oh My G_ _"?
Yes.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:30 PM
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I know someone that says Jeeez all the time. I think that is taking the name of Jesus in vain
It is.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:32 PM
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It is.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:37 PM
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It doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a sound of frustration with no attached meaning. Just because some guy in 1920 decided it was a way that he could get away with saying Jesus, doesn't mean it means the same thing to me.
It wasn't some guy in 1920. That is where the word comes from. I can't believe you all can treat the name of Jesus so tritely.....
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:38 PM
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It doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a sound of frustration with no attached meaning. Just because some guy in 1920 decided it was a way that he could get away with saying Jesus, doesn't mean it means the same thing to me.
In other words, the commandment not to take the Lord's name in vain is relative? Do you notice what you said. "It doesn't mean anything to me"; "the same thing to me."

I can just hear you now.

"Maybe blasphemy is sin for you but it isn't sin for me."
"Maybe idolatry is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe adultery is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe murder is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe stealing is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe dishonoring one's parents is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe coveting is sin for you but it isn't for me."



James 2:10 disagrees with your relativistic thinking:

"For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it."
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:38 PM
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what a sad day when we can redefine words so we can do and say whatever we want...maybe murder and fornication and lying can all be redefined to mean something else to us
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:39 PM
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In other words, the commandment not to take the Lord's name in vain is relative? Do you notice what you said. "It doesn't mean anything to me"; "the same thing to me."

I can just hear you now.

"Maybe blasphemy is sin for you but it isn't sin for me."
"Maybe idolatry is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe adultery is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe murder is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe stealing is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe dishonoring one's parents is sin for you but it isn't for me."
"Maybe coveting is sin for you but it isn't for me."



James 2:10 disagrees with your relativistic thinking:

"For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become accountable for all of it."
Exactly....
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  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  6. The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:40 PM
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It wasn't some guy in 1920. That is where the word comes from. I can't believe you all can treat the name of Jesus so tritely.....
Really? The way some people talk I am so far gone, nothing I do or say could suprise them

But seriously, it's just a sound. I feel absolutely no conviction about making that sound. And I do follow my conviction. But as it apparently conflicts with your conviction, I will make sure not to make that sound around you.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:40 PM
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what a sad day when we can redefine words so we can do and say whatever we want...maybe murder and fornication and lying can all be redefined to mean something else to us
words are always being redefined...
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:42 PM
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Really? The way some people talk I am so far gone, nothing I do or say could suprise them

But seriously, it's just a sound. I feel absolutely no conviction about making that sound. And I do follow my conviction. But as it apparently conflicts with your conviction, I will make sure not to make that sound around you.
Maybe instead of following your conviction you should follow the Holy Ghost.
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