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Old 02-23-2022, 11:19 PM
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I'm begging you, learning what the UPC believes about history is like trying to learn nuclear fission from the "My Little Red Story Book First Reader."

Your arsenal of knowledge is the word of God. Period.

History takes a lot of time, and much study through reading quite a bit of primary sources. Even when you are done with all of that, history is still debatable. The United Pentecostal Church has some interesting views on church history. Like the early church became apostate devolving into the Catholic church. Then the Church was reborn at Azusa Street. Not too far off from what the Adventists believed, as well as the Jay Dubs, and the Mormons .
I agree that history is debatable, but I still think it is good to know at least a basic overview of church history. I have noticed that many Protestants believe that Catholics are heretics, but at the same time don’t recognize how many things their denomination has adopted from Catholicism. Early church history also gives possible context to scripture. Overall, I have been enjoying the studying. AFF has been a good place for me in the past to get a spectrum of ideas and I like thinking outside of the box sometimes.
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I agree that history is debatable, but I still think it is good to know at least a basic overview of church history. I have noticed that many Protestants believe that Catholics are heretics, but at the same time don’t recognize how many things their denomination has adopted from Catholicism. Early church history also gives possible context to scripture. Overall, I have been enjoying the studying. AFF has been a good place for me in the past to get a spectrum of ideas and I like thinking outside of the box sometimes.
You want to study the ecclesiastical history of the world? Then steer clear of books written by denominations and their leadership. You get a skewed view of the history. It's like this, if I want the history of Apostolic Pentecostals I don't go to John MacArthur.



Now I ask you, while history is debatable, why waste precious time reading material with an obvious agenda. I have people on the job in construction and with weight gym equipment. Both have people who don't know anything about what they are buying or what is being done to their homes they must be educated by the GC or salesman. In mechanics, you have to totally trust what the mechanic tells you. Because you have little to no knowledge concerning your cars construction. Therefore he can tell you anything, The same thing with religious denominations. Their literature concerning their opposition lacks the puzzle pieces you would need to see the facts. You then walk away totally unarmed for any kind of rebuttal when you need to defend yourself in a debate, in a Bible study, in a church dinner on the grounds, or out among the population in street ministry. All is well when we are standing behind a pulpit safe from the world. We can say anything from that vantage point. but when we take our show on the road, that is when we really need to have all our good stuff together. It would be kind of nice not to be repeating David K Bernard to someone who had study the real deal. Only for them to hand us our lunch, with no desert in sight.
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Re: Catholic origins

This book was recommended to me by Bro Esaias.

https://www.ffbruce.com/new-testament-history/

New Testament History
Its Religious, Political, and Philosophical Context
This highly acclaimed book provides a wealth of fascinating information on the Roman and Jewish background of the New Testament, the life of Jesus, and the history of the early church. Kirkus Reviews summarizes: “Professor Bruce begins . . . discussing the political, social, intellectual and religious situation of the Hebrew nation as the background to Christ and Christianity. The life of Jesus is treated as a single phase of this era, with major emphasis reserved for the diffusion of Pauline Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. The book closes with . . . the position of Christianity in the Empire at the end of the New Testament period.” “An outstanding resource” (LibraryThing website). “The book on Church History for which we have been waiting.” (Christian Graduate)
Print edition, published by Galilee / Doubleday
462 pages, paperback
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