The Virus And Judgment

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Mike, it isn’t just the United States. Hence the word pandemic.
So only the people who are dying are under judgement?

God has a controversy with the nations. Let us seek righteousness and meekness. It may be we will be hid from the Lords judgment. Zephaniah 2:3

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

God has a controversy with the nations. Let us seek righteousness and meekness. It may be we will be hid from the Lords judgment. Zephaniah 2:3

Again, so only the people dying are under judgement?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I dunno...he used a few lepers and amplified their footsteps to bring judgement on an occupying army and bring salvation to the ones they were occupying...sometimes it isn't about the direct things but the indirect things God sets up.

But God amplified the foot steps.. I don’t think God amplified the flu to bring this hysteria. Good point tho...

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

But God amplified the foot steps.. I don’t think God amplified the flu to bring this hysteria. Good point tho...

Then theres Gideon...nothing supernatural other than Gods involvement with the selection and planning...confusion and disorientation and the Midianites slew themselves with Gideon not even getting his blade bloody.


At least thats the way I remember it.


I also remember something about ditches filled with water that in the red dawn looked like blood that sent some folks packing as well...seems like God can not only do things directly to you but He can also cause you to act of your own volition to fulfill His will by adjusting your perception...what you see and hear.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Again, so only the people dying are under judgement?

I can only speak generally about Gods ways. We are told if we dwell in the secret place (Psalm 91) we will have protection. There are times judgment breaks out and is then drawn back. Usually not all the wicked die.

[Freeindeed]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It may be but as pointed out God uses men and or events to bring calamity. I do believe the deep state Commies are using it to bring martial law, stripping away freedoms and banishing the constitution.

It appears that it's not only the "deep state commies" that are plotting our demise, but the current administration too.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Freeindeed

It appears that it's not only the "deep state commies" that are plotting our demise, but the current administration too.

From our viewpoint it hard to tell the difference sometimes.

[Michael The Disciple]

I dont think we should be telling people not to fear and panic. I believe God wants sinners to fear and panic. Thats why he sends judgment in the first place.

The saints on the other hand should be strong in the Lord and the power of his might. When there is a door of witness dont just tell people not to fear because God is a good God.

He is a good God but he wants sinners to know that he is against sin and that the only way to please him is to believe in and obey Jesus Christ.

So the "fear not" message as it relates to saints at least includes the idea dont be afraid to tell the sinners about God judging the nations as well as individuals.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I dont think we should be telling people not to fear and panic. I believe God wants sinners to fear and panic. Thats why he sends judgment in the first place.

The saints on the other hand should be strong in the Lord and the power of his might. When there is a door of witness dont just tell people not to fear because God is a good God.

He is a good God but he wants sinners to know that he is against sin and that the only way to please him is to believe in and obey Jesus Christ.

So the "fear not" message as it relates to saints at least includes the idea dont be afraid to tell the sinners about God judging the nations as well as individuals.

Great...Ill just be sure to be extra judgey and dial my discernment up to 11 and make sure their pastor*and they better attend my favorite denomination* is current on his membership card and THEN Ill tell them to dont be skeered....all the other ones get kneecapped by Mafia Jesus till they get their act straight.


Yes, judgement is used by God to bring repentance but also goodness.


Romans 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We forget that many times when pestilence comes it is sent as judgment from God. Could a nation be more ripe for judgment than ours? 60 million babies slaughtered. Sodomite marriage. The administration on a crusade to legalize it around the world.

The USA is drowned in a sea of fornication. Not to mention the partying lifestyle of drunkeness and drugs.

Some of us have preached Gods judgment is coming for years. It is here.

I believe that times such as these can be used by God in order to cause people to refocus their values and their lives. It isn’t always necessarily a judgment.