Depression

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

YES!!!!!!! My wife and I have been having to discover what works for us and yes counseling has been pretty great unpacking some things about ourselves as individuals and as a couple.



The masculine/feminine roles...yeah thats a major thing we found that caused so many problems and so much friction and I had to step out of that beta passive mentality.


My wife has been on all kinds of psych meds but what we found actually works is a low dose blood pressure medication.



It basically represses the extreme fight or flight response triggered by the complex PTSD and has stopped the anxiety attacks on their tracks.


We are fearfully and wonderfully made and we need to study how we are put together and what makes us tick!


With each discovery we can become better and be in even more awe at Gods handiwork!

How long have you and your wife dealt with the issues your overcoming? Are there people in your church that deal with some form of what you guys have dealt with?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

How long have you and your wife dealt with the issues your overcoming? Are there people in your church that deal with some form of what you guys have dealt with?

She had dealt with it before we had even met.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

I’m sorry about that Brother, she wasn’t too revealing in the discussion. She just mentioned that it was a dark time (went on for several years) in her life, she became isolated, lonely, out of touch etc.. When she revealed that she went to a doctor and began to take medication for the depression. She was received with a standing ovation, understanding it took courage to confess that to so many people. She also confessed with great strength that she prayed, fasted and believed for God to take her out of that situation. She proclaimed it didn’t work, her miracle didn’t come, thats when she said she went to the doctor and took medication, after some time the feelings of depression went away.

The Discussion was about being made whole, all of them confessed to suffering burnout. Does burnout lead to depression, I just cant help but feel there is a lot of this going on in the church. And because of the fear of backlash you might receive from the church people hold it in, and the problems branches into other areas of our life.

Let me see if I get this right. At a big time Pentecostal conference, a woman said she prayed and sought God but got nothing out of that, then went to the physicians and got her some results from their medications, and she got a standing ovation for that testimony?

No wonder she couldn't get an answer from God, and no wonder so many are depressed and suffering. Sounds like the conference should have been called Because We Ain't Got It Anymore 2020.

[Armapeet.Singh]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Let me see if I get this right. At a big time Pentecostal conference, a woman said she prayed and sought God but got nothing out of that, then went to the physicians and got her some results from their medications, and she got a standing ovation for that testimony?

No wonder she couldn't get an answer from God, and no wonder so many are depressed and suffering. Sounds like the conference should have been called Because We Ain't Got It Anymore 2020.

Maybe that's why Mickey sung.... "I believe I can fly...", maybe she was talking about drugs!!!

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Let me see if I get this right. At a big time Pentecostal conference, a woman said she prayed and sought God but got nothing out of that, then went to the physicians and got her some results from their medications, and she got a standing ovation for that testimony?

No wonder she couldn't get an answer from God, and no wonder so many are depressed and suffering. Sounds like the conference should have been called Because We Ain't Got It Anymore 2020.

Crudely put, yes thats correct. This was a discussion forum and this was one of the main reasons why I wanted to view BOTT 2020. I missed the first discussion forum on Wednesday morning moderated by Gentry Mangun. In this discussion forum there was a Moderator, 2 Pastors (J.H. Osborn, and a Pastor from Canada) a Pastors wife, and the other lady (one with the issue of depression) was the wife of the moderator. The only participant that didn’t state a problem he personally dealt with was Bro. J.H. Osborn. The Pastor from Canada had a daughter born with Down syndrome and struggled with that issue for years, had to go to therapy, had a dark time because he desired God to heal his daughter and that healing never came. The Pastors wife talked about burn out, and how they need to have vacations, and get aways to cope with the overloading responsibilities of the church. Then the Moderators wife spoke on her condition, she was more blunt about her issue of depression.

Ill be honest, when I saw “Discussion Forum” as part of the schedule I wasn't thinking that type of forum. I was thinking more along the lines of biblical study on a subject. Yet, when I saw the topic being discussed, I felt there is a lot more of these situations going on in the church.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Armapeet.Singh

Maybe that's why Mickey sung.... "I believe I can fly...", maybe she was talking about drugs!!!

You are incorrigible.

[Scott Pitta]

Meds have a legitimate place in dealing with depression. Some of it is biochemical. But not all of it.

It takes a helping hand to bring a person out of the fog of depression.

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Meds have a legitimate place in dealing with depression. Some of it is biochemical. But not all of it.

It takes a helping hand to bring a person out of the fog of depression.

When you mention helping hand, are you referring to having someone to talk to, or someone to help you pray? So, reading what you posted your thought on depression is a chemical imbalance thus medication will allow the imbalance to become balanced again, and all should be fine. Then some of it will be in your opinion?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Meds have a legitimate place in dealing with depression. Some of it is biochemical. But not all of it.

It takes a helping hand to bring a person out of the fog of depression.

Scott what in the world are you talking about?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Let me see if I get this right. At a big time Pentecostal conference, a woman said she prayed and sought God but got nothing out of that, then went to the physicians and got her some results from their medications, and she got a standing ovation for that testimony?

No wonder she couldn't get an answer from God, and no wonder so many are depressed and suffering. Sounds like the conference should have been called Because We Ain't Got It Anymore 2020.

I've noticed a trend the last few years of people, known ministers and others, who have began to encourage the use of therapists or medication to treat mental illness and depression.

The grandson and wife of a late minister who had been one of the Assistant GS for a long time have given their testimony on a few occasions about his struggles with mental illness and how they used medications and therapists to deal with it. He had been prayed for by many, including some of the most well known Minister's in the UPCI and was not healed.

I agree with your earlier post, stating that we fellowship with the suffering of Christ.

Not everything is sunshine and roses, mountain tops and rainbows. There are some tough trials to endure, and to do so with joy knowing that God is with us and working through those situations and will always give strength and encouragement when we need it most.