When your own wife and kids call you, Pastor

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Apostolic1ness

IMHO If your "what" doesn't become your "who" in God's kingdom then your "what" is not subject to "who" God called you to be.

Dad is what you became when you had kids.
Husband is what you became when you got married.
If these titles became a "who" based on certain conditions, then Pastor is "who" you became based on the same premise.

The difference is, becoming a fireman doesn't mean you are thereafter called "fireman."

Being a dad is not the same. In most cultures, dad, or some variation of dad, is a name commonly used to address your dad. But I've yet heard a child call their dad, "fireman." Or their mom, "housewife."

See the difference?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

The difference is, becoming a fireman doesn't mean you are thereafter called "fireman."

Being a dad is not the same. In most cultures, dad, or some variation of dad, is a name commonly used to address your dad. But I've yet heard a child call their dad, "fireman." Or their mom, "housewife."

See the difference?

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

You don't see the difference?

How many children do you know that calls their parents by the name of what they do for a living?

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

I don’t see the difference.... so basically to you it’s more of an occupation? Clock in and out? My pastor is always my pastor even if we are on the fishing boat but a firefighter clocks in and out. If I meet the President I will will call him president trump. We are not on the same level. A god called man deserves more respect then a president.

What about parents? How many of them do you know that call their children by the name of what they do?

Mom: "Here's my son, 'Newspaper Boy.'"
Dad: "Here's my daughter, 'Babysitter.'"

I've never met such a parent. Have you?

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

What about parents? How many of them do you know that call their children by the name of what they do?

Mom: "Here's my son, 'Newspaper Boy.'"
Dad: "Here's my daughter, 'Babysitter.'"

I've never met such a parent. Have you?

Actually you are the one that said “ dad “ is who you are.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

If I meet the President I will will call him president trump.

You didn't catch what you did there. You didn't say you'd call him "President," but "President Trump."

If he was on that fishing trip with you, it would be awkward to ask, "'President', would you like another RC Cola?"

No, as you posted, you'd use his actual name. You ask, 'President Trump', would you like another RC Cola?"

Names like Mr., Mrs., Dr., President are considered "Titles" or "honorific names" used to describe that person. Normally, they are used with a person's last name. Hence: Mr. Smith. Mrs. Jones. Dr. Welby. President Trump.

The same goes with "pastor." It is a title or honorific name that should accompany the person's name. Hence: "Pastor Guy."

Some have made this less formal by using instead the first name. Hence: "Pastor Hometown."

But--again--being president is what Donald Trump does, not who he is...and pastoring is what Hometown Guy does, not who he is.

Paul said he did the works of an apostle, but you never see anyone calling him, "Apostle," but instead he is called, "Paul."

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Actually you are the one that said “ dad “ is who you are.

You just like to be contentious, don't you?

[Esaias]

The use of religious titles is forbidden to Christians. There is no clergy/laity distinction in the church of God:


Matthew 23



1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

[TK Burk]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The use of religious titles is forbidden to Christians. There is no clergy/laity distinction in the church of God:


Matthew 23



1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,

7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.

Yes, and then there's that...

As I said, I prefer using Brother So-in-so, or Sister So-in-so for everyone no matter if they're in a pulpit or a pew.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by TK Burk

You just like to be contentious, don't you?

Well it would be pretty boring if I wasn’t icecream