Is Satan (or the Devil) a Real Being?

[Esaias]

lol

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Wrong. Others have over spiritualized the reality of the Biblical devil into a Gnostic Dualist syncretism, resulting in the modern impotency of Christianity to turn the world upside down like they did back in the first century. By importing a Zoroastrian version of pagan mythology replete with Jewish myths about fallen angels, hybrid reptilians whose disembodied spirits roam the earth, and the Evil God™ Ahriman, er, I mean Loki, er I mean Set, er, I mean Lucifer/Satan©, and the quest for Level 20 Cleric/Mage spells to "engage the forces of darkness", REAL evil marches unopposed and entire generations languish under the thrall of the REAL devil. Meanwhile, the sheep are told not to worry about all that, just pay tithes and do their navel gazing and they can go to the Grand Stockyard in the Sky when they die (likely from causes inculcated by their real enemies who have convinced a lot of people the enemy is an invisible, omnipresent Lord Foul and his horde of demons sent to invade Shannara so they best get Leveled-up and start anointing courthouses with oil).

Be plain. Is the devil a person?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Wrong. Others have over spiritualized the reality of the Biblical devil into a Gnostic Dualist syncretism, resulting in the modern impotency of Christianity to turn the world upside down like they did back in the first century. By importing a Zoroastrian version of pagan mythology replete with Jewish myths about fallen angels, hybrid reptilians whose disembodied spirits roam the earth, and the Evil God™ Ahriman, er, I mean Loki, er I mean Set, er, I mean Lucifer/Satan©, and the quest for Level 20 Cleric/Mage spells to "engage the forces of darkness", REAL evil marches unopposed and entire generations languish under the thrall of the REAL devil. Meanwhile, the sheep are told not to worry about all that, just pay tithes and do their navel gazing and they can go to the Grand Stockyard in the Sky when they die (likely from causes inculcated by their real enemies who have convinced a lot of people the enemy is an invisible, omnipresent Lord Foul and his horde of demons sent to invade Shannara so they best get Leveled-up and start anointing courthouses with oil).

That in bold was hilarious. But no one ever believes the devil is Omnipresent not that I know of.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Be plain. Is the devil a person?

Yes, and he is a member of this forum.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Yes, and he is a member of this forum.

ROFL!!!!!

[Michael The Disciple]

Did Jesus believe the devil was a personal being?

Luke 4:1-13

1And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered. 3And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread. 4And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

5And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. 8And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.


9And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:

10For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:

11And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.

12And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

13And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.

Not only did he believe he talked to him.

And furthermore:

Luke 4:17-18

17And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Jesus believed the devil fell from Heaven before he was on the earth.

Or maybe it was actually THE SCRIBES AND THE PHARISEES!

[Aquila]

We're being told that we are not to walk around "swatting at invisible flies" as Esaias had said in a previous post.

However, Jesus was tempted by Satan in the wilderness... Jesus also cast evil spirits out of people during His earthly ministry. The disciples were granted authority to do the same. And in the book of Acts we read of the Apostles casting out devils. And in the Epistles we are admonished to resist the devil, be sober and vigilant regarding the devil, etc.

It appears that this new stripped down version of Christianity being propagated around here is truly in some rather serious error.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Aquila

We're being told that we are not to walk around "swatting at invisible flies" as Esaias had said in a previous post.

However, Jesus was tempted by Satan in the wilderness... Jesus also cast evil spirits out of people during His earthly ministry. The disciples were granted authority to do the same. And in the book of Acts we read of the Apostles casting out devils. And in the Epistles we are admonished to resist the devil, be sober and vigilant regarding the devil, etc.

It appears that this new stripped down version of Christianity being propagated around here is truly in some rather serious error.

Next thing may be an attempt to spiritualize GOD out of existence.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Next thing may be an attempt to spiritualize GOD out of existence.

Scary.

I know I can be liberal on several political issues. I know that I'm moderate to liberal on standards that I don't see specifically spelled out in Scripture. But I've never denied a clear doctrinal teaching of the Bible.

These men are truly blind teachers.

It's almost like when they became Preterists... they began reconstructing a unique religion based on Scripture... but cared not to maintain the very same faith expressed in the Scriptures.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Scary.

I know I can be liberal on several political issues. I know that I'm moderate to liberal on standards that I don't see specifically spelled out in Scripture. But I've never denied a clear doctrinal teaching of the Bible.

These men are truly blind teachers.

It's almost like when they became Preterists, they began reconstructing a unique religion based on Scripture... but not the same faith expressed in the Scriptures.

Esaias is not a preterist. EB has cast out devils.

Next.